5.56 Scout rifle

[rangerbob]

Jeff Quinn has a review of the new 5.56 Scout rifle at Gunblast.com. NATO chamber , 1 in 8" twist barrel, AI magazine, and the rest is just like the 7.62 model. Using the AI magazine is not going to help sales, in my opinion. Bob! 8)

 

[96/44]

It's a neat idea, and probably very well built. I just don't see it being a big seller with proprietary mags, and an MSRP almost twice that of the Mossberg MVP (which takes any AR-15 mag).

 

[cubrock]

I just saw that. My first thought was that they should have made it to take Mini-14 mags. Or, even better, military M16 mags/PMags. I would probably get one if there was mag interchangeability with some other platform.

 

[rangerbob]

I had forgotten about using a Mini-14 magazine. That would have been factory Ruger and with compact and readily available mags. The Mossberg MVP is a hard act to follow. Bob! 8)

 

[Big Old Boy]

I think my next long gun will be a scout but I'll stick with the 308 deer or whatever gun no limits.

 

[HIP SHOT]

Interesting that shop river doesn't have extra mags!

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[IlikeIke]

Jeff Quinn has a review of the new 5.56 Scout rifle at Gunblast.com. NATO chamber , 1 in 8" twist barrel, AI magazine, and the rest is just like the 7.62 model. Using the AI magazine is not going to help sales, in my opinion. Bob! 8)

So is this the unannounced firearm of the contest, or what?

 

[clayflingythingy]

The fact it does NOT use readily available AR mags is a deal breaker.

 

[NH Rugerman]

What a bummer, the Ruger Gunsite Scout rifle is modeled after the scout concept espoused by Jeff Cooper as an all purpose rifle with numerous qualities the Ruger does possess some but not all. He was adamant that the scout could not and should not be in 223/5.56 caliber...Steyr did the same thing and it pissed him off to no end...Ruger can do what it wants of course but why the heck didn't they use Mini 14 or SR556 mags?

They now manufacture 3 magazine fed rifles that take three different mag designs, not exactly customer friendly...

I am underwhelmed. Now a 308 Mini Would have made me smile instead of a $1000.00 bolt action 223, it will sell I guess so Ruger will be happy, my guess is they based this on responses to the voice of the customer survey...

 

[HIP SHOT]

I saw that Mossberg has many patents on using the AR style box fed semi magazines. Maybe this has something to do with Rugers "mistake"on using the "odd ball" magazines.

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[bentblade]

You know for 248 views and only 9 posts I would say people are pretty much underwhelmed.

 

[black029]

Well, it's not like they pulled the .308 model from the lineup. If you are determined to be a stickler for Cooper's parameters, have at it. But I'd like a mag fed quality bolt .223/5.56 ( they got that part right: it shoots both) and am not crazy about Mossbergs. I didn't call Ruger or dream aloud about a Scout .223 on this Forum, but I'll buy one. I suspect polymer mags will appear (it's a shame P mags don't work, but not a deal breaker) and a few of those will suffice.
For me, setting a short LOP and shooting .223 are the keys.

 

[DGW1949]

Maybe it's just me, but I can't think of a single reason that I'd want a 30-rd AR mag hanging out the bottom of what is otherwise, a short, handy sized, carbine. To my way of thinking, what Ruger's 5.56 Scout could use instead, is a built-in stripper clip guide.

DGW

 

[cubrock]

A GI or PMAG 20-rounder wouldn't stick out any more than the mag that is on it. Or a 20-round Mini-14 mag. Might even stick out less. Plus, any of those other mags will already fit in pouches/gear I already have, plus I already have a ton of them and wouldn't need to buy any extra mags for it. Mag interchangeability would have about guaranteed I'd buy one. Would be a dandy, handy little bolt gun to carry around. As it is, I'll pass.

 

[dfletcher]

Where's the take down version ........? :evil:

 

[clayflingythingy]

Maybe it's just me, but I can't think of a single reason that I'd want a 30-rd AR mag hanging out the bottom of what is otherwise, a short, handy sized, carbine. To my way of thinking, what Ruger's 5.56 Scout could use instead, is a built-in stripper clip guide.

DGW

10 & 20 round AR mags are available. I would much rather have a 10 round Pmag than this.

 

[Snake45]

What a bummer, the Ruger Gunsite Scout rifle is modeled after the scout concept espoused by Jeff Cooper as an all purpose rifle with numerous qualities the Ruger does possess some but not all. He was adamant that the scout could not and should not be in 223/5.56 caliber...

You beat me to it. A "scout," by definition, has to be in an all-around, do-nearly-anything caliber such as .308 or something close to it. There's no such thing as a "5.56 scout rifle." It's like a handgun "ghost ring" sight--it doesn't exist. :evil:

 

[HIP SHOT]

What a bummer, the Ruger Gunsite Scout rifle is modeled after the scout concept espoused by Jeff Cooper as an all purpose rifle with numerous qualities the Ruger does possess some but not all. He was adamant that the scout could not and should not be in 223/5.56 caliber...

You beat me to it. A "scout," by definition, has to be in an all-around, do-nearly-anything caliber such as .308 or something close to it. There's no such thing as a "5.56 scout rifle." It's like a handgun "ghost ring" sight--it doesn't exist. :evil:

I don't disagree with you as to the basic platform and caliber.

They do make ghost ring pistol sights by the way..... http://www.handgunsmag.com/blogs/carry-on/ghost-ring-pistol-sights/

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[Snake45]

They do make ghost ring pistol sights by the way..... http://www.handgunsmag.com/blogs/carry-on/ghost-ring-pistol-sights/

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If they're calling them "ghost rings," they're unclear on the concept. They're aperture or peep sights, period. You can't (or wouldn't want to) shoot a handgun close enough to your eye for the sight to "ghost" out, which is the whole idea of the thing. :roll:

 

[TnTnTn]

Ho hum- a decent looking rifle but the lack of AR magazine is a killer for me.

 

[welder]

Ho hum- a decent looking rifle but the lack of AR magazine is a killer for me.

Same here.

I have a good stash of AR mags in just about every capacity. I would even have liked it had it used Mini14 mags as I have several of those too. But $70 proprietaries, not a chance.

Ruger now has four rifles chambered in .556/.223 and each uses a different magazine.

 

[Major T]

Gentlemen, there are some things I like about this rifle, but i must have a smaller magazine than the twenty rounder hanging out the bottom. Something like the flush Mini-14 magazine would do it for me. Otherwise, I would rather have a Standard model and cut the barrel to 20". 16 is just too much of a good thing with high pressure rounds. Does anyone make them?

thanks, Jack

 

[bentblade]

Put a scout scope base and sights on this and you would have a pretty nice Scout rifle.

http://ruger.com/products/americanRifleRanch/models.html.

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[Major T]

I really don't care for scout scopes. The barrel is a bit short here as well as the scout. I have located a lightweight 20" stainless Hawkeye for just a hundred more than list on this one. I need to find out what the twist is on the 77. Thanks, Jack

 

[Snake45]

Put a scout scope base and sights on this and you would have a pretty nice Scout rifle.

http://ruger.com/products/americanRifleRanch/models.html.

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It makes length. It makes weight. But it's not in a proper scout caliber. Fail.

 

[Don Lovel]

I would buy one if they made it in .243 caliber, that way you could shoot 55gr Nosler ballistic tips at over 3800fps and 100gr Nosler partitions at 3000fps out of the same gun

 

[shatolang]

I love shooting my 308 scout. A cheap shooting 223 version would be a blast to own. Plus there lefty and righty. $75 a mag is crazy but i can see that price dropping eventually.

 

[dad11345]

I like the idea of the scout in 223. Thirty round AR15 magazines not working in the scout being a deal breaker is a joke to me. Who factors in a 30 round magazine on a bolt rifle. Funny :lol:

 

[Mtn Biker]

I am curious if the Ruger magazine will allow for longer cartridge overall lengths. The COL limits of the AR magazines can be limiting with heavy bullets.

VL

 

[drastic_quench]

I like the idea of the scout in 223. Thirty round AR15 magazines not working in the scout being a deal breaker is a joke to me. Who factors in a 30 round magazine on a bolt rifle. Funny :lol:

Mossberg, that's who.

http://www.mossberg.com/products/rifles/centerfire/mvp-series

More importantly, not all AR mags are 30 rounds. Smaller capacity mags are pretty darn common.