American Gen 2 Scout Rifle

[Landsandgrooves]

I just wanted to drop in to let Ruger fans know of a limited run of Ruger Scout Rifles on the American Gen 2 platform.

We worked with Lipseys and Ruger on this project to mark 30 years of Gun Talk Radio. Long rail, aperture rear sight, AR-type front sight, threaded barrel (16 inch), etc. In 5.56 and .308. All sales are through Durys Guns and its GunBroker account.

We have worked on this for months, and it turned out great. Just a fun little project.

Thanks for letting me share this.

Tom Gresham

 

[Landsandgrooves]

Details at guntalkscout dot com.

 

[Mobuck]

I simply don't understand. The 'SCOUT' concept was originally designed to allow stripper clip loading with a scope in place. A mag fed action negates ANY such use.
I 'built' 3-4 'scout' type rifles using M-95 and 98 barreled actions simply because they were cheap and available. Unfortunately, unless one could/would spend the big bucks for the right scope to top it off, the results weren't great. Currently, there are many optics options that are more budget friendly but still doesn't change the fact that a 'SCOUT' with detachable magazine is just another carbine.

 

[Landsandgrooves]

I like the premise of Trapper or scout length rifles. I will never use that forward scope rail but I definitely like the receiver sight. I cannot tell by the pictures if the rail is removable leaving the rear sight standing alone. I also went to multiple sites for more info and all I learned is that they will be difficult to purchase.

I don't understand the "difficult to purchase " comment. It's a simple GunBroker purchase, the same as any other. What am I missing?

 

[Landsandgrooves]

I simply don't understand. The 'SCOUT' concept was originally designed to allow stripper clip loading with a scope in place. A mag fed action negates ANY such use.
I 'built' 3-4 'scout' type rifles using M-95 and 98 barreled actions simply because they were cheap and available. Unfortunately, unless one could/would spend the big bucks for the right scope to top it off, the results weren't great. Currently, there are many optics options that are more budget friendly but still doesn't change the fact that a 'SCOUT' with detachable magazine is just another carbine.

Stripper clips versus detachable magazines. I think mags have completely replaced stripper clips and are much better. When Cooper was working on the concept four decades ago, that wasn't the case.

 

[nekvermont]

I simply don't understand. The 'SCOUT' concept was originally designed to allow stripper clip loading with a scope in place. A mag fed action negates ANY such use.
I 'built' 3-4 'scout' type rifles using M-95 and 98 barreled actions simply because they were cheap and available. Unfortunately, unless one could/would spend the big bucks for the right scope to top it off, the results weren't great. Currently, there are many optics options that are more budget friendly but still doesn't change the fact that a 'SCOUT' with detachable magazine is just another carbine.

I didn't know the concept of the "scout". I actually learned something today.

 

[Landsandgrooves]

This may be more than many want to take on, but if you're interested in the history and concept of the Scout Rifle, Richard Mann's book is a great place to start.

His introduction starts:

"The Scout Rifle in an enigma but to many it's an abomination, used by those stuck in the 20th, if not the 19th, century. To others it's a cult-like religion in which there exists grand poobahs who repeat the words of Jeff Cooper as gospel, and worship at an alter of a mythical rifle that's never existed. For many more, in fact for most, the Scout Rifle is simply something they do not understand, a perplexing, puzzling, oddity, or a survival-line implement, sitting in the corner of some prepper's basement."

Further down he explains "The Scout Rifle is a Jeep, a Bronco, a Blazer, or maybe more appropriately, an International Scout. It is a vehicle that can do almost anything well. It is the SUV of rifles."

Amazon.com

 

[GYJ44]

I simply don't understand. The 'SCOUT' concept was originally designed to allow stripper clip loading with a scope in place. A mag fed action negates ANY such use.
I 'built' 3-4 'scout' type rifles using M-95 and 98 barreled actions simply because they were cheap and available. Unfortunately, unless one could/would spend the big bucks for the right scope to top it off, the results weren't great. Currently, there are many optics options that are more budget friendly but still doesn't change the fact that a 'SCOUT' with detachable magazine is just another carbine.

Actually the stripper clip aspect came much later. The concept was originally centered around the Remington 600 Mohawk. The use of stripper clips was never a requirement. The Steyr Scout was literally designed with Jeff Cooper and it featured flush-mounted detachable magazines. A Scout with a detachable magazine box like the AICS pattern does not negate the whole concept. It's just a little less one hand carry friendly.

 

[Landsandgrooves]

Update: Ruger shipped these rifles to Lipseys last week. Limited run. Durys Guns, the exclusive retailer, should start shipping orders next week.

 

[the_leper_colony]

... A mag fed action negates ANY such use... a 'SCOUT' with detachable magazine is just another carbine.

FWIW & IIRC, Jeff Cooper noted that caliber might vary from his preferred .308 in various parts of the world, and mentioned .303 and the Lee-Enfield specifically (in at least one of his written comments). Obviously, most Lee-Enfields allowed loading via clips, and I think they all used detachable mags. I've got an 1898 Lee-Enfield Cavalry Carbine MkII that I always intended to equip with a forward rail (it's not in collectible condition); I have the rail and a Springfield Armory Scout Scope to go on it, but that's so far down my list of projects that I'll probably never get around to it!

 

[Landsandgrooves]

Quick update: The first of the Ruger Scout Rifles will begin shipping next week.