4/08 SR9 Recall

[mike7mm08]

That is not a very high rate of failure less way than 1 percent. I would think if it was something mechanical you would encounter it more often.With my 597 I hang on the trigger too long maybe one out of 75 rounds if I am shooting from a bench slow. Even higher rates of failure if I have not shoot it in a long time.Others have put hundreds of rounds through it without a problem. If it were me I would just keep shooting it. One of two things will happen the problem will go away or it will become more common. If it is the gun it will get worse if it goes away it might of been you. I know we all want a gun that is 100 percent reliable but they don't exist. Your gun is running 99.9933333 reliable. Hard to get much better than that.

 

[Vecco]

I disagree 100% this is not a failure to feed or a jam. This is a trigger not resetting. NO GUN should have this problem. If you are ok with it, that’s up to you I myself do not want to have to draw my gun and pull the tiger and have nothing happen due to the trigger. You already have to accept a failure rate for ammo and/or action. No other gun that I own has ever had this type of problem.

 

[buckeye49]

So, has anybody out here removed the mag disconnect form their SR9 since the recall work has been done on it? Is the procedure the same as before?

Hey, Buckeye. I removed the disconnect on my SR9 following its return from the recall and took it out back for some shooting. Works like a champ! Removal of the disconnect is just the same as before the recall.

I was VERY impressed with the Ruger turn around on the recall. I put it in with UPS on a Wednesday and it was back at my front door eight days later! Had the extra mag as promised and an SR9 baseball cap.

I know some folks don't like the new trigger, but I find it easier to shoot quickly since the trigger reset is more crisp and predictable. IMHO.

Good shooting!

Thanks for the prompt feedback on the mag disconnect! I apprecaite that. Well, if all goes ok I should have both of my SR9s back by this coming Wednesday. I will reserve my opion on the new trigger until AFTER I have a chance to shoot the guns. I hope very much that I am thrilled with the guns after the recall work and that they work as flawlessly as before the recall work. I would like to keep at least one of them.

 

[buckeye49]

Could it be you? Don't take offense. I wonder if the shorter pull and reset might be an issue. You might not be releaseing the trigger fast enough. I have a remington 597 that has given me issues with not firing due to to the trigger not resetting. It only happens when I shoot it not when anyone else shoots it. Also it only happens when I am firing slow. For some reason I just hang on the trigger too long and it does not reset. Just a thought. I am awaiting the return of my SR9. I imagine I will wait a little longer as I also had the issue of barrel peening for them to adress.

I don't want to sound ignorant, but what is barrel peening?

 

[AZ Outlaws]

I don't want to sound ignorant, but what is barrel peening?

Here you go....

 

[Cheesewhiz]

Peening is when one piece of metal strikes another, causing a mushroom effect to the struck part. Think of it as riveting (not pop rivets) but real rivets in steel structures. AZ, I don't know what that is, almost looks chiseled or sawed. Actually AZ, you posted a perfect example of peening (although not barrel peening) on your LCP before your modification done at the factory.

 

[oldcop]

When I first shot my SR9 with the new trigger I did not like it. After smoothing the tip of the trigger and putting more rounds down range, I find it shoots in an acceptable manner, but I still don't like Glock type triggers.

When I purchased my SR9, it was exactly what I was looking for. Now - not so much.

I am guessing my trigger pull is about 6 pounds or so.

 

[mike7mm08]

With the SR9 the peening develops were the barrel goes from round to square at the breech end. The top edge in some cases is being beat up by the slide. I have never encountered this with any other pistol. I have an xd9 with a lot of rounds through it and the finish is not even worn in the same area.

 

[Cheesewhiz]

With the SR9 the peening develops were the barrel goes from round to square at the breech end. The top edge in some cases is being beat up by the slide. I have never encountered this with any other pistol. I have an xd9 with a lot of rounds through it and the finish is not even worn in the same area.

When a metal part (the slide) is harder than the metal part being struck (the barrel), peening will be the result. My guess is that Ruger got some barrels that didn't either start off with the right hardeness or end up with it. One way or the other it didn't look good but it seemed to be caught as I didn't see too many reports.

Before anyone gets their underwear in a knot, the SR9 fires from a locked breech, the slide actually moves before the barrel and therefore makes contact with the barrel hood when the barrel unlocks.

 

[AZ Outlaws]

AZ, I don't know what that is, almost looks chiseled or sawed.

It's the old barrel from my Sig P226 .40S&W. It developed the nicks at 350 rounds or so. Sent the gun back to SIG and they sent it back with a new barrel. No problems since....

 

[buckeye49]

I don't want to sound ignorant, but what is barrel peening?

Here you go....

Wow, now I know what barrel peening is! I can see why there was concern. Neither of my SR9s evidenced any barrel peening.

 

[Cheesewhiz]

Buckeye49, Mekender has some pictures of barrel hood peening on the SR9. You could search his old posts, I think back in Feburary or March. Some others also posted similiar pictures that related to that same issue.

 

[buckeye49]

Buckeye49, Mekender has some pictures of barrel hood peening on the SR9. You could search his old posts, I think back in Feburary or March. Some others also posted similiar pictures that related to that same issue.

Thanks, I will look at them.

 

[mekender]

here are the pics

 

[mike7mm08]

Yep that is just how mine looked. I even had a piece of metal flake off. What did ruger do to fix it?

 

[SR9shooter]

My barrel peening looked just like these pictures. I sent a request to check when it went back. They did or said nothing. Disappointing.

 

[Cheesewhiz]

Mine was just a slight amount on the very top of the hood, it never got any worse and I have put thousands of rounds thru it since. Some guys had got it really bad (maybe Username was one) those should have been replaced without question and I think they did.

 

[mekender]

Yep that is just how mine looked. I even had a piece of metal flake off. What did ruger do to fix it?

replaced my barrel, slide and magazine (the magwell was empty)

 

[buckeye49]

Well, like clockwork, today is my 8th day since I sent my 2 SR9s to Ruger for the recall work; and I now have (yet to be opened) in my grubby hands two packages freshly delivered by UPS!!!!!!!

I will now open them, and dry fire to see if they set the trigger pull at no more than 5.5 pounds, as I asked of them.

I will report on that and report shooting the pistols as soon as I get a chance and post to that specific thread also, ....e.g. the before and after opinion of the trigger.

 

[buckeye49]

Well, I opened the FIRST box (my blackened stainless steel SR9).

I tried the trigger, which I DO NOT think they adjusted to 5.5 pounds max as I requested, BUT, in dry firing it, I do feel that it is CONSIDERABLY lighter in pull than the SR9 I dry fired at the gun store the other day that has the newer type (after recall type) trigger.

I will now open my 2nd box.

Well, I dry fired the trigger on this SR9 too. Again, it is about identical to the other SR9 I opened a minute ago. I DO NOT think they adjusted the trigger pull to be no more than 5.5 pounds. But, I don't have a means to test the trigger weight, so I can only go by feel. I dry fired both guns maybe 30 times each, and (maybe it is my imagniation) it seems they both lightened up a little already.

The trigger pull on both pistols is very crisp now, with no distinguishable takeup or slack. I won't know if I like this until I actually shoot both pistols, which I won't get to do until at least Saturday. I will report back then on my opinion. If the trigger is identical to a Glock, then I shouldn't have any problems with it because, even though I don't own Gloks pistols now, I have had two, and their triggers were not a problem for me.

 

[jhearne]

hey buckeye did they or you fix the slide serrations' burrs for you??

Josh

 

[buckeye49]

hey buckeye did they or you fix the slide serrations' burrs for you??

Josh

They never touched them from what I can tell. I thought maybe they'd put a new slide on for me, or do something. There was no mention of it in the (canned response) letter from the President.

The all-Black SR9 I have does NOT have extremely sharp serrations on the slide, so it doesn't cut me like the shiny stainless one with the sharp, deep slide serrations.

So, I will (reardless of how well the new trigger I might shoot) definitely be getting rid of the shiny stainless SR9. I'm not going to wear bandaids just to shoot the pistol; not when I have several other 9mm pistols that don't present this problem.

 

[buckeye49]

hey buckeye did they or you fix the slide serrations' burrs for you??

Josh

They never touched them from what I can tell. I thought maybe they'd put a new slide on for me, or do something. There was no mention of it in the (canned response) letter from the President.

The all-Black SR9 I have does NOT have extremely sharp serrations on the slide, so it doesn't cut me like the shiny stainless SR9 does.

So, I will (reardless of how well the new trigger might shoot) definitely be getting rid of the shiny stainless SR9. I'm not going to wear bandaids just to shoot the pistol; not when I have several other 9mm pistols that don't present this problem.

 

[mig1956]

how do you like the color of the blacken slide ....buckeye .... it always look like a deep and dark color in pictures .. I am thinking about getting one soon

 

[buckeye49]

how do you like the color of the blacken slide ....buckeye .... it always look like a deep and dark color in pictures .. I am thinking about getting one soon

I like the blackened stainless slide on the SR9. Yesterday I got both of my SR9s back and haven't had a chance to shoot them yet with the new trigger group; however, in dry firing them, and cleaning them last night (because Ruger dumped a bunch of greasy oil in them) I think the trigger pull is no harder than it was with the original triggers AND the new triggers have virtually no slop, delay, or take-up. I like my blackened stainless SR9 better (and will sell the shiny stainless SR9) because the Blackened SR9 does not have the sharp slide serrations like the shiny SR9. When I sent both SR9s back, I asked that Ruger buff out, or somehow make sure the shiny stinless SR9 was not so sharp, so that when I rack the slide I don't cut myself! They didn't do anything to that SR9, it is still sharp. So, bottom line is, even though the blackened SR9 cost a little more ($20 I think), it was worth it.

 

[jimruger9]

Just got mine bak last night. 2 week turn.

They did not clean anything. sent dirty just to see.

Trigger pull seams VERY HEAVY. Will get my trigger tester back from my buddy. Will test before and after Polishing entire workings of gun.

Complained about the peening and accuracy problems on the box and got a new barrel.

Still love the feel of the thing and hope it shoots much straighter from a rest as it before with lead bullets had 10" groups. 5 to 6" with factory ammo.

More to follow.

 

[RUGERFAN357]

I got mine back today. It went out last Wednesday and got it Thursday. 8 day turnaround. Not bad at all. The new trigger will take some getting use to. As for pull, it is ok. I like the short pull and no over travel.Makes for a nicer pul over all. I will go to the range tomorrow and put some through it. But I only have about 40 rounds or so right now. :cry:

Bill

 

[jhearne]

how do you like the color of the blacken slide ....buckeye .... it always look like a deep and dark color in pictures .. I am thinking about getting one soon

I like the blackened stainless slide on the SR9. Yesterday I got both of my SR9s back and haven't had a chance to shoot them yet with the new trigger group; however, in dry firing them, and cleaning them last night (because Ruger dumped a bunch of greasy oil in them) I think the trigger pull is no harder than it was with the original triggers AND the new triggers have virtually no slop, delay, or take-up. I like my blackened stainless SR9 better (and will sell the shiny stainless SR9) because the Blackened SR9 does not have the sharp slide serrations like the shiny SR9. When I sent both SR9s back, I asked that Ruger buff out, or somehow make sure the shiny stinless SR9 was not so sharp, so that when I rack the slide I don't cut myself! They didn't do anything to that SR9, it is still sharp. So, bottom line is, even though the blackened SR9 cost a little more ($20 I think), it was worth it.

I'd say you need to find you that machine shop buddy/neighbor to take care of it for you. Stainless isn't exactly the most-free cutting metal right now, Just disassemble the pistol and take the slide only to them so they can't damage the polymer pieces or any internals as well. Since its technically a partial gun at that point there's no harm in toting it around in the open either to get it to them. Most small outfits won't even charge you for the 5 minutes of labor, heck it'll probably take longer to find the right file than to remove the metal.

Josh

 

[buckeye49]

how do you like the color of the blacken slide ....buckeye .... it always look like a deep and dark color in pictures .. I am thinking about getting one soon

I like the blackened stainless slide on the SR9. Yesterday I got both of my SR9s back and haven't had a chance to shoot them yet with the new trigger group; however, in dry firing them, and cleaning them last night (because Ruger dumped a bunch of greasy oil in them) I think the trigger pull is no harder than it was with the original triggers AND the new triggers have virtually no slop, delay, or take-up. I like my blackened stainless SR9 better (and will sell the shiny stainless SR9) because the Blackened SR9 does not have the sharp slide serrations like the shiny SR9. When I sent both SR9s back, I asked that Ruger buff out, or somehow make sure the shiny stinless SR9 was not so sharp, so that when I rack the slide I don't cut myself! They didn't do anything to that SR9, it is still sharp. So, bottom line is, even though the blackened SR9 cost a little more ($20 I think), it was worth it.

I'd say you need to find you that machine shop buddy/neighbor to take care of it for you. Stainless isn't exactly the most-free cutting metal right now, Just disassemble the pistol and take the slide only to them so they can't damage the polymer pieces or any internals as well. Since its technically a partial gun at that point there's no harm in toting it around in the open either to get it to them. Most small outfits won't even charge you for the 5 minutes of labor, heck it'll probably take longer to find the right file than to remove the metal.

Josh

I agree. I think I will do that if I keep the pistol. Right now I am inclined to sell this particular one for $385. They have them new on sale now for $429 plus sales tax (7%). That would save a new buyer about $85 off of a new one.

 

[buckeye49]

I am posting this here, and on the "before & after" thread...

Well, today about 12:30 p.m. or so, I got to the range. They were setting everything up for a "two-gun" match tomorrow, so I had to shoot in the "0" bay (rather than bays 1 through 8).

I shot 150 rounds of my reloads, Berry's Mfg. 124 grain (copper plated) round nose 9mm bullets using 4.4 grains of Winchester 231 powder, through each of the SR9s. Needles to say, I was very tired when done, since it was very hot and sunny today. (I still had to get a shower and take my wife shopping this afternoon!). Good thing I recently ordered another thousand bullets; now I need to get busy reloading again!

I will say this about the new trigger on the SR9s after the recall work has been done. Other than going through the motions of actulaly squeezing the trigger, I was hardly even conscious of the fact I was pulling the trigger. That is how easy and how smooth the pull was. I was amazed. Dry firing is one thing, but pulling the trigger on a round in the chamber is a whole different feel to the trigger. I was truly amazed and I do believe that Ruger must have actually adjusted the trigger pull to no more than 5.5 pounds, as I requested; at least somewhre close. Both pistols pulled virtually identical (my blackened stainlles model and the shiny stainless model). These are definietly keeper pistols. Now I will buy a holster for them; probably the Fobus kydex model HK-1.