357 Blackhawk before and after

I’ll have to look and see
The mark you are looking for is an uppercase "R" that is struck on the bottom of the gun's frame. You'll have to remove the grip frame to find it. Also be aware that some are struck more lightly than others, so the entire "R" may not be there....but either way, that's where you'll find it.

DGW
 
You might be able to get a refund on that shipping.
Mailing should be on their dime because of the conversion being done.
At least that is the way it used to be.
I thought they were supposed to to pay for shipping too for conversion, but they said no.So I don’t know. I think a lot of things there depends on who you talk to and on what day. I’ve got different answers from them on a couple of things.
When I first called asking about have it blued , I talked to a younger lady and she told me they would not blue one that old. Then I called back a few days later and talked to an older lady “Martha” and she checked and said they would blue it.
 
The mark you are looking for is an uppercase "R" that is struck on the bottom of the gun's frame. You'll have to remove the grip frame to find it. Also be aware that some are struck more lightly than others, so the entire "R" may not be there....but either way, that's where you'll find it.

DGW
Ok, I didnt realize you had to remove the grip frame. Don’t really want to do that right now , afraid I’ll “bugger” up a screw.
 
I thought they were supposed to to pay for shipping too for conversion, but they said no.So I don’t know. I think a lot of things there depends on who you talk to and on what day. I’ve got different answers from them on a couple of things.
When I first called asking about have it blued , I talked to a younger lady and she told me they would not blue one that old. Then I called back a few days later and talked to an older lady “Martha” and she checked and said they would blue it.
I sent an om single six to be blued receently. When I called the, I was told the same thing. She said she would have to em a tech and ask him. 3 days later I got a call from the tech, sent him some pics of it having been converted, and he said they could blue it.
 
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Ok, I didnt realize you had to remove the grip frame. Don’t really want to do that right now , afraid I’ll “bugger” up a screw.
I agree with your line of thinking, I wouldn't take it apart just for that either. I was just letting you know where it was, not necessarily recommending that you disassemble it to look.

DGW
 
I agree with your line of thinking, I wouldn't take it apart just for that either. I was just letting you know where it was, not necessarily recommending that you disassemble it to look.

DGW
This subject came up in recently when I was with some long time Ruger guys and one of them said the factory stamped the R like @DGW said to prove they converted it to satisfy the lawyers. He also said they don't do that anymore and just record the serial # to cover their ass.
Curious if this is the case??
Anyone have one done recently to have a look??
Here is a pic of what/where it would be.
 

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Would have been a good question to ask them at the show this weekend, about the shipping for conversions.
 
I agree with your line of thinking, I wouldn't take it apart just for that either. I was just letting you know where it was, not necessarily recommending that you disassemble it to look.

DGW
Thanks
 
Bob Campbell was a long-time serious collector of Old Model .357 Blackhawks. Attending a lot of shows, he noticed that he saw a lot of the guns that had been altered at one time or another, so he began to keep a list of the evolution of the guns from one owner to the next. I assisted him a little with the format and maintenance of The List for several years, and when he tired of the whole thing I agreed to continue maintaining it. As Bob had done, I scour the gun websites and shows and record any of the oldies I see. There are now over 3600 OM’s on The List, including the 30- and 31- later versions. We only keep the serial number, variation/model number, barrel length, any condition notes applicable, and ship date if available . . . we never keep any names or other personal data at all, never. It remains Bob Campbell’s List of Ruger .357 Old Models.
Is there a link to the List? I've got a 1972 vintage, be cool to see if it's there...
 
31-26475 does indeed appear on The List, but it's listed with a 6-1/2" barrel while your picture shows 4-5/8" . . . right?

Such a situation is one of the reasons Bob started The List. I'll note this in the file. ;)

Probably shipped in June of 1972. Nice-looking gun.
 
woodperson, the "R" would NOT have been marked on the 'new' grip frame, they were stamped on the cylinder frame, as shown on the picture above, that is the part that has the serial number of record, this shows that the factory did indeed do the safety conversion update,,,,,,BUT being the caveat,after the fact, ANYONE COULD REPLACE THE OLD MODEL PARTS 'SET'..........interesting to actually see just what the lawyers would have to come up with for "who to blame" if there was a shooting case involving said firearm, and the "action" ( parts) being the culprit or cause......hhhmmm:unsure::rolleyes:
 
The mark you are looking for is an uppercase "R" that is struck on the bottom of the gun's frame. You'll have to remove the grip frame to find it. Also be aware that some are struck more lightly than others, so the entire "R" may not be there....but either way, that's where you'll find it.

DGW
The question asked was whether Ruger had marked the gun to indicate it having been reblued.
 
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31-26475 does indeed appear on The List, but it's listed with a 6-1/2" barrel while your picture shows 4-5/8" . . . right?

Such a situation is one of the reasons Bob started The List. I'll note this in the file. ;)

Probably shipped in June of 1972. Nice-looking gun.
Yep, 4 5/8". My favorite for a PPP.
 
There's no published list. If you care to share the serial number -- DM if you prefer -- I will check to see if it's been posted there and if so any info shown. 😁
Ale-8, I just picked up an unconverted .357 mag. flattop and suspect the grip has been replaced. Wondering if it's on "The List".
Ser. no. 33306.
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Thanks, Terry T

Terry T
 
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no they did not mark the guns that were reblued,,and they did not note that in any letters for the guns, as to "service" of any kind that we have ever seen or heard of, the "R" being talked about is for the safety update conversions and all 'splained' out above, on the cylinder frame, hidden and out of sight.......;)(y)

...some gun companies like S&W for instance, used to mark the grip frames with dates, letters for finish, even stars ( asterisks)?? so a question that often comes up out there in the gun world, mainly as the frame was part of the gun and serial numbered ......:cool::rolleyes:
 
Ale-8, I just picked up an unconverted .357 mag. flattop and suspect the grip has been replaced. Wondering if it's on "The List".
Ser. no. 33306.


Thanks, Terry T

Terry T

Terry, 33306 was not on The List . . . but will be now, with comment about its SBH grip frame. 😁 Likely shipped early in 1961.

Thanks for sharing. ;)
 
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The question asked was whether Ruger had marked the gun to indicate it having been reblued.
I own a1965 Ruger Blackhawk .357 Mag 6.5" blued, that has never been re-blued. I did have it 'upgraded' by Ruger around 2010, so
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I can carry all 6 rounds in it safely now.I use to quick draw a lot with it back in the late '60s and early '70s, so the blue is a bit on off on the inside of the tip of the barrel, which is not shown here since it is on the other side, otherwise, the gun looks new. I keep it well lubed always, and clean it after shooting each time. It is over
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50 years old now.
 
I own a1965 Ruger Blackhawk .357 Mag 6.5" blued, that has never been re-blued. I did have it 'upgraded' by Ruger around 2010, so View attachment 101838I can carry all 6 rounds in it safely now.I use to quick draw a lot with it back in the late '60s and early '70s, so the blue is a bit on off on the inside of the tip of the barrel, which is not shown here since it is on the other side, otherwise, the gun looks new. I keep it well lubed always, and clean it after shooting each time. It is over 50 years old now.

83030 appears on Bob's List among a bunch of similar guns shipped late in 1966. Nice piece. Thanks for sharing. 😁
 
How about 14288 from 1958? I bought it off of Gunbroker about 6 years ago so it may be on Bob's list.

Changes I made since obtained:
Converted to 44 Spl
SBH hammer and trigger
XR3-RED Old Army stainless grip frame
(kept all original parts)
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