Looking for any info on the 350 Legend. Pros or cons.
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Stumps
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Stumps
350 Legend
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JStacy
Blackhawk
approximately a rimless 357 max. It would be a good 100 to 150 yard deer gun-- white tail not mule deer. It is just another round to fit the RARR platform.
Well, it is a 35 caliber bullet running at 35 Rem velocities (180 gr) and has a light recoil impulse. It has similar ballistics to the 30-30 Win at the lighter bullet weights but with a bigger bullet. It is available in reasonably priced bolt guns and inexpensive AR barrels and uppers (if you look around). It shoots relatively flat out to about 175 yards. Practice ammo (Win white box) is inexpensive and hunting ammo is way cheaper than 450BM. I hunted with a 450BM this year and killed a nice doe on opening day. I then switched to the 350L and killed another nice doe near the end of the second week. Both were inside of 100 yards using home built AR uppers. Both shot into one ragged hole at 50 yards while sighting in. If I had to choose between the two I would probably choose the 350L.
Stumps, you asked for pros and cons, so here goes. Pros: Its readily available in AR platforms, including Ruger's handgun version, 2, other than AR's, many makers offer economy bolt action and possibly single shot rifles, 3 ammo is readily available ranging from WW's affordable white box to Hornady and Federal's hunting loads, 4, reloading dies, brass, and bullets are readily available from several makers, and 5 According to WW, it's legal in 47 states to use for hunting. Lite recoil and cheap to feed are also pros. About the only con is that it is about equal to a 35 Remington. Comparing it to a 30-30 is like apples and oranges. The 350 is NOT a long range hammer like a 7mm Magnum or even a 358 Winchester. Basically, if one remembers the old 351 Winchester, this would be WW's answer to the 35 Remington. My 2 cents worth. FWIW, I have the Ruger ranch rifle in 350. Bob! :wink:
OP
Thanks for the info. Now I will make the decision and proceed from there.
Designed to meet the deer hunting regulations of some "misguided" states. Maybe suitable for certain other uses but IMHO probably has more recoil than I'd want a kid to receive and only marginally more effective than the 300AAC which offers less recoil.
If it fits your needs, fine.
If it fits your needs, fine.
langenc
Single-Sixer
I have the 77/44 and it is very good for deer here where shots are mostly less than 150 and where I hunt mostly less than 100 yrds. The 350 would be an excellent deer gun for most of MI. Im not a 400 yarder anyway.
If I didnt have the 77/4 Id already have ba upper in 350..
Can you fire the 357 mag in the 350 legend?? Please dont flame.
If I didnt have the 77/4 Id already have ba upper in 350..
Can you fire the 357 mag in the 350 legend?? Please dont flame.
I doubt that one could get the bolt to close on a 357 round. The 357 is rimmed and the 350 L is a rebated rimless design. The 350 L is basically blown out 223 case to straight taper with a slightly larger base diameter, but the same rim diameter as the 223 family of cartridges. The base of the 350 L is much larger in diameter that the 357 round. So the simple answer is NO. Bob! :wink:
langenc
Single-Sixer
rangerbob said:
I didnt think so but had not investigated the possibility. I guess if I wanted to have a short gun and long of same caliber I should find a M29 to go with my 77/44.
RED
Bearcat
Stumps13:
I bought an American Ranch in .350 Legend and have to say it is really a nice gun for the price. The only complaint I have is it was (still is but improving) very hard to cock. I have bad shoulders but compared to my other bolt actions, it was very stiff at first. Other than that, it is really accurate, very little recoil (good for the shoulder) and is light and carries nicely. Happy Holidays!
Take care,
Bob
I bought an American Ranch in .350 Legend and have to say it is really a nice gun for the price. The only complaint I have is it was (still is but improving) very hard to cock. I have bad shoulders but compared to my other bolt actions, it was very stiff at first. Other than that, it is really accurate, very little recoil (good for the shoulder) and is light and carries nicely. Happy Holidays!
Take care,
Bob
RED. RARR should loosen up after a few hundred bolt cycles. After a few 'dry' cycles, without taking the bolt apart, I spray inside the bolt from the back end (aim lube can tube forward into the bolt from inside the shroud) and the large hole near the lug end and through the firing pin hole with the Hornady Gun Cleaner (NOT the case lube). It leaves a dry lube film when it evaporates, so should not gum anything up or attract dirt. Not sure how much that has helped make the bolt throw easier, but all my bolts are much easier than when new. Should also be more rust-proofed. Time will tell.
If you really wanted to get the cocking cams loosened up, you could take the bolt apart to lube the cams. It's not complicated, but it takes some effort the first time. I've only done it once on one bolt for educational purposes.
If you really wanted to get the cocking cams loosened up, you could take the bolt apart to lube the cams. It's not complicated, but it takes some effort the first time. I've only done it once on one bolt for educational purposes.
RED
Bearcat
blammer:
Thanks for the suggestions. I've been working the bolt which has seemed to improve (that or my muscles are improving!). I will try spraying the Hornady cleaner inside the bolt. Thanks again!
Take care,
Bob
Thanks for the suggestions. I've been working the bolt which has seemed to improve (that or my muscles are improving!). I will try spraying the Hornady cleaner inside the bolt. Thanks again!
Take care,
Bob
RED
Bearcat
blammer:
Sprayed inside the bolt with Hornady One-Shot cleaner/lube and cocked it 100 times or so. Definitely made a difference. Thanks again for the suggestion.
Take care,
Bob
Sprayed inside the bolt with Hornady One-Shot cleaner/lube and cocked it 100 times or so. Definitely made a difference. Thanks again for the suggestion.
Take care,
Bob
There is a nice write up on the 350 L in the Sept, 2019 American Rifleman by Kelly Young.
gramps
gramps
RED
Bearcat
Thanks for the info gramps!!
Take care,
Bob
Take care,
Bob
Bob R
Single-Sixer
I was looking at an American in 300BO for the wife a new deer rifle. She stand hunts with most shots inside 150 yards. She has been hunting with a Browning BBR in 270 for the last 30 some years. My plan is to get her to shoot a lot more before season. The 270 recoils fairly hard, and I think she will enjoy shooting something that recoils a lot less, which should help to get her to put in more trigger time.
The gun shop sold the 300BO I was looking at, and got in a 350 Legend. The Legend looks to be an even better option than the 300BO. I had not considered it before seeing this one. I have a couple 357 Maximum's, a 35 Bullberry, and a 356 Winchester. All in handgun barrel lengths. The 350L in a rifle should be about equal to my 35 Bullberry Super 14 Contender barrel.
At the moment I am still researching the 350L, and it is looking better the more I read about it.
Bob R
The gun shop sold the 300BO I was looking at, and got in a 350 Legend. The Legend looks to be an even better option than the 300BO. I had not considered it before seeing this one. I have a couple 357 Maximum's, a 35 Bullberry, and a 356 Winchester. All in handgun barrel lengths. The 350L in a rifle should be about equal to my 35 Bullberry Super 14 Contender barrel.
At the moment I am still researching the 350L, and it is looking better the more I read about it.
Bob R
Bob R said:
Check out this youtube video. Guys shooting the 350L at 307 yards. Sub moa groups.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSviKeKepa0&feature=emb_logo
And at 415 yards!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=1R8ds9IRbMc&feature=emb_logo
I keep hoping that Ruger will make the American in 357max but we know it'll never happen.
If I didn't already have a 300 blackout I might consider the 350 Legend.
My wife would shoot her .270 but loves shooting her .260 instead. I guess the 6.5 creedmoore (spelling) is the newest option.
If I didn't already have a 300 blackout I might consider the 350 Legend.
My wife would shoot her .270 but loves shooting her .260 instead. I guess the 6.5 creedmoore (spelling) is the newest option.
Well this seems like as good a place as any to post this. I finally finished my 350 Legend AR pistol build using a Bear Creek Arsenal barrel and a Rise Armament handguard on the usual flat top upper. I used a SB Tactical A3 brace on the lower while using receiver end plate with the holes to attach a H&K style single point sling. I topped it off with MagPul flip up sights(which are hard to get right now) and have 2/ 10 round mags and 7/20 round mags. I have 600 rounds of WW factory ammo and 300 rounds of handloads. Maybe I'll have enough time to shoot it over the Holiday weekend coming up. Bob! :mrgreen:
Wow, that sounds fantastic. Can you post a pic? If not, send me a pic to [email protected] and I will post it!
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