Epishemore
Bearcat
Can anyone give me a recommendation for a .32 S&W long load using a 100 gr swc and Longshot powder. Looking for ~1000 fps out of a 5.5" single six. Thanks.
WIL TERRY said:Have you checked AA's [ Western powder ] own data in their manuals or on their site ?
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...are you bragging or complaining. Heck it don't matter. Interesting either way.WIL TERRY said:YEE GADS, I PRETTY WELL BLEW THIS ONE HUH !!! I even looked in the Hodgdon manual before answering the question. Guess it must have been the long trip both ways to the Shootists Holiday and a week of shooting all day, drinking all night, and seeing 1500 rounds disappear into oblivion. Shucks, I even hit a few this time around...
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5of7 said:I have handloaded the 32 S&W Long in 5 different revolvers.
The only load that I have that made over 1000 fps with a 100 gr SWC, was fired in a S&W 631 chambered for the .32 Mg.
It was 4 grs of Unique, in a S&W Long case with a CCI. 500 primer, and 1.16" OAL.
It made 1014 average for 20 shots.
It matters more what gun it is fired in, than that the brass is particularly weak....it ain't. 8)
Cheesewhiz said:5of7 said:I have handloaded the 32 S&W Long in 5 different revolvers.
The only load that I have that made over 1000 fps with a 100 gr SWC, was fired in a S&W 631 chambered for the .32 Mg.
It was 4 grs of Unique, in a S&W Long case with a CCI. 500 primer, and 1.16" OAL.
It made 1014 average for 20 shots.
It matters more what gun it is fired in, than that the brass is particularly weak....it ain't. 8)
I call horsecrap, how do you make a case as small as a .32 S&W Long push a 100gr bullet to over 1000fps without far exceeding the pressure max of a .32 H&R Mag?
My point had to do with case size and it limitations, small cases don't run well with slower powders unless that round is a high pressure round, which the .32 S&W Long and the H&R Mag are not, that's a fact and loading one to velocities that one would get from a longer case will raise the pressure levels to unknown and ungodly levels.
NikA said:Longshot is not like Unique. It is a significantly slower powder and is generally useful for high pressure automatic pistol cartridges. In my experience, it is likely to cause leading in lower pressure cartridges because it will not adequately obturate the bullet base at the beginning of the pressure curve.
ETA: I'm not sure I've ever seen cast bullet data for Longshot, but I've attempted to use it with plated bullet data in 40 S&W/10MM and 45LC and encountered leading issues in both.
Any burn rate chart is just an estimate. Different companies use different methods, there is no standard method, thus a wide variety of burn rates and burn rate charts. Even within the same brand, burn rate depends on pressure. There is no standard pressure and if they did have one it would be unfair because different powders act differently at different pressures.Epishemore said:I've looked at the powder burn rate charts put out by the various manufacturers.
I seems like there is a big difference in what the charts say and how the powders are actually ranked for a particular handgun cartridge based on published reloading data and manuals.
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks.