2nd time on range w/SR9

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lakers3234

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Hey guys,

I went to an indoor firing range and shot 150 fmj's and 20 hollow's at about 21-27ft. This time I was able to fire at paper targets and when I shot them all, I was pretty much low and left. I am a lefty and I think my grip was too tight on my strong hand and I know I my sights are straight. Was wondering if you guys have any suggestions on correcting this problem? I will post up pics later cause I'm not at my home.

But I must say it was fun shooting and those hollows come out real strong. The hollows I was shooting was Winchester Bonded PDX1 @124grain.
 
lakers3234 said:
Hey guys,

I went to an indoor firing range and shot 150 fmj's and 20 hollow's at about 21-27ft. This time I was able to fire at paper targets and when I shot them all, I was pretty much low and left. I am a lefty and I think my grip was too tight on my strong hand and I know I my sights are straight. Was wondering if you guys have any suggestions on correcting this problem? I will post up pics later cause I'm not at my home.

But I must say it was fun shooting and those hollows come out real strong. The hollows I was shooting was Winchester Bonded PDX1 @124grain.
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The first thing I would do is fire your SR9 from a rest while seated. This way you can keep the sights lined up while staying aimed at the red.

Luckily, if your gun actually is off, the SR9 has those nice adjustable sights.
 
+1 on what babble said .Also you may not be putting enough of your finger in the trigger guard .Make sure that the crease of the first joint of your finger is what your pulling the trigger with .Also this could be "trigger slap" thats when you let all the perssure off the trigger between shots ,just let the trigger out far enough for it to reset.
You can ckeck this like this .First MAKE SURE the gun is un loaded second ,REpeat no.1.Now I understand you can only dryfire the SR9 with the mag in without hurting the gun so heres what you do .
Point the gun in a safe direction with the gun cocked slowly pull the trigger untill the striker falls now DON'T MOVE keep the trigger pulled all the way back ,drop the mag with your weak hand enough to rack the slide all the while keeping the trigger back .Reinsert the mag and slowly let pressure off the trigger .You will hear and feel a slight click STOP ,this is the point that your trigger has reset ,now slowly pull the trigger again .Repete untill you know where the reset point is .
You'll find that it's way before the trigger goes all the way forward .
Learning this will close up your groups and help you center them on target .
Lou
P.M. sent
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I will try it later on when I have a chance. The only thing about adjusting the sights is that if I have a friend shoot my gun, won't his sight be different than mine?
 
Having someone shoot your gun is best way to see if it off or not. If he has similar results then its the sights. If he has diff or oposite results it could be him. But if he can get a good group at center then its you...
 
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These are my placement shots. This is shooting 175 rds.
 
If you can, get someone to watch you shoot.
Make sure they watch YOU, not the target.
Have them load your magazine with a combo of regular ammo,
and fake ammo (Snapcaps or other dummy ammunition).

When you unexpectedly get to a dummy round, it will be quite clear as to
what you might be doing wrong. If you're pushing or flinching at all, your
spotter will see it, and you probably will too.

Sometimes when we get a new firearm, we're excited, and forget to practice the fundamentals. Stance, breathing, trigger control, sight picture.
Pretend like you've never shot before, take it slow. Once you get back to
fundamentals, you'll see speed and accuracy increase.

- chip
- NRA Certified Instructor
- TopShotAcademy.com
 
Hey Cheese,

I shoot at GAT sometimes, and I shoot and instruct at Article II...I also started participating in the Monday night combat shoot at Midwest, and the Thursday USPSA practice at Pine Tree Club.

There's a video on my website of me shooting my
Galloway SR9.
 
Thanks for the advice inuswetrust. Currently, I'm correcting issues that cruzerlou has pointed out and he has given me a lot of information/help to improve my shooting. Thanks to all that are helping me out. Can't tell how grateful I am to have ppl help one another. Thanks again to all. I will post an update when I have a chance to shoot again.
 
+1 on the Ball and Dummy Drill.

No man wants to admit a flinching problem but the drill done with a partner does not lie. :)
 
To me, I want to cure my bad habits or learn how to do things properly so as not to do it again. I def. know I don't flinch because when I dry fire, my aim is at the same place as before I put my finger on the trigger. Most def. it's my grip and elbow placement causing an inadvertent pull of the trigger. I accidentally jerk my gun one time; and to my surprise, I hit the bullseye.

It could be that I might flinch on the range, but not at home practicing dry fire. But in all, I will take corrective actions to cure this problem and should be ok from there on out.
 
That's why the ball and dummy drill works.

If you know your gun is empty as during dry fire practice, there is no conscious or subconscious reflex at work.

If you don't know whether your next round is a dummy in a magazine mixed with live and dummy rounds, it tends to be more revealing.

Good luck and fun shooting!
 
Hey Guys,

Here's an update:
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As you can see the groupings become smaller. I shot 130 rounds and all 130 rounds are in the targets(I counted them myself). The second target has more holes because I also started shooting with only my left. I found that I shot pretty well with my left and was better off shooting with only one hand. At least now I can shoot more center, but couldn't figure why I was still shooting low, until my last magazine round. I found that I needed to lock my shooting wrist. This made my shots become level with where I was shooting.

How I fixed from shooting left was modified weaver, slanting forward, with shooting arm straight and locked, and supporting elbow towards the floor. So, I believe I found the solution to my problems and will emulate them next time I'm on the range.
 
It's hard to tell what's going on with so many rounds. No offense intended, but it looks like you were shooting a shotgun. If you have a correct site picture, then you're still shooting low (probably pushing). All of this feedback is also dependent on the distance. If you were shooting at 25 yards, that's not to bad, but if you were shooting at 25 feet, there's still a lot of room for improvement.

Again, going back to basics is the best way to build accuracy and speed.
Start off watching your stance. Natural area of aim is important. If you don't know what that is, find a good instructor. Next is grip, followed by site picture, as well as catching the trigger reset. Depending on how fast you're shooting, breath control can come into play.

Bottom line, it's clear that you're capable of hitting the bullseye, the issue is doing it consistently. A good instructor or a coach will take you a long way. A good shooter learns from his mistakes. A great shooter learns from the mistakes (and success) of others. Good instruction is cheaper and faster in the long run. Find the guy on the range that's shooting the way you want to shoot. Become his friend.
 
A lot of those shots were also due to me wanting to shoot with no regard to sight picture. Thanks for the tips. I believe I corrected a lot of my mistakes and will go back to the range and replicate what I did on my last magazine. I will post another later on and hopefully will show you guys my improvement. Thanks once again.
 
A good practice is to load only 5 rounds in the magazine. That will help slow things down so one concentrates more on each shot, it will also help define the groups. Taping the holes or at least marking them with a pen so you know which five round group is which helps too. Just banging away at a target without examining what's going on doesn't really gain much.
 
exavid: thanks for the suggestions. I was wondering why I saw people taping the holes of their targets. I couldn't figure it out for the longest time. I thought they were cheap and just wanted to tape their targets so they don't have to buy more target papers.
 
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