10mm. Topic

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

Does anyone still manufacture guns for this chambering? If so who are the top "current" dogs on the block? Pros/cons? had a recent chance to shoot a buddies Ten mm. Think I found my next gotta have it.

 

[ArmedinAZ]

Full size: Glock 20, Compact: Glock 29. EAA imports some Tanfoglio pistols in the CZ pattern in 10mm. Here's a search on Gallery of Guns:

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?pg=list&mfg=European+American+Armory&mdlno=Tanfoglio+Witness

I carry a 29 when I'm out in the desert or high country. With the mag pinky extensions it's manageable even with stout ammo.

 

[sargents1]

Does anyone still manufacture guns for this chambering? If so who are the top "current" dogs on the block? Pros/cons? had a recent chance to shoot a buddies Ten mm. Think I found my next gotta have it.

Heck yeah!
Glock 20
Tanfoglio (imported by EAA) Witness in Polymer or steel.
Various 1911 makers (Colt, Kimber, Dan Wesson etc).

For my money the Glock is the best one. It was designed to be a 10mm, not a .45 rebarreled for 10mm. The chamber is a ramped chamber with good support for the case head...though it does still have a small unsupported part. These have a 15+1 capacity, great aftermarket support and reasonable price. They are also easy to find. The only downside is that the standard G20 has a big handgrip that is too much for some. The G20SF is more manageable, but might be too much if you have small hands.

The tanfoglio is supposed to be quite nice, but I hear about cracked slides and other stuff that gives me pause. Also, EAA has a bad reputation in terms of customer service. I couldnt even find one to look at when I was 10mm shopping so I crossed it off my list. They do come with reasonable price tags and I have heard some folks speak highly of theirs. I consider the Tanfoglio to be a risk, but at reasonable price...so maybe its worth it. Ergonomics are typical CZ, but in a larger frame than the original CZ75B.

The 1911's are what they are. The ones I have seen (on the internet, not in person) have un-supported throated barrels. These are going to be a weak spot if you run hot ammo, especially handloads using recycled brass. If you stick to factory ammo that is not nuclear-grade they will be fine. If you had the money, you could have a gunsmith build you a 1911 or fit one with a supported ramped barrel and proper springs. That would run into the thousands of dollars. Ergos are typical 1911.



Here's a photo of My G20SF (on the right) and a friend's G20 regular frame on the left.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

I held a g20 today @ work. HUGE grip. Gun felt like it weighed damn near 30 oz. W/empty magazine. Looking for a SF. The 21sf I held once felt much better. I hear its the same frame. The 20sf may be the answer. I don't have the $$$ for a 1911 10mm at the moment and the tanfog seems impossible to find?

 

[Leucoandro]

I have a G21 gen 4. It comes SF sized, and you can add grip size. 4th gen Glocks are the way to go in the Glock line.


Charlie

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

Loved the grip on my G19 Gen 4. Wonder if the G20 will receive the upgrade??

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

I own a Cz 75. Its an outstanding gun. Looks like the same design on the eaa. How do those hold up to the 10mm? Reminds me of a bren ten.

 

[mohavesam]

CZ75 (Tanfoglio) has never had any problems. NIB in 1995?
Colt Delta needed a few polsihings and eats Clark lube but is accurate, almost as much so as the Tanfoglio. 25 years and purring.
Ruger Blackhawk convertible is, well, its a Ruger Blackhawk!
T/C Contender barrel (10") has killed a couple of fat does, no problems. Great open sight tree-stand gun for the early season!

ll of the above digest the 200-gr bullets without issue, and I don't shoot light bullets (under 170gr) at all in any of them.

 

[TRanger]

I held a g20 today @ work. HUGE grip. Gun felt like it weighed damn near 30 oz.

Wow, 30 ounces! That's almost as much as a K-frame .38. :lol:
Here of late, I've taken an interest in the 10mm. As some have noted, the Glock seems to be the pistol best suited to the cartridge. With full power ammunition, it is controllable, durable, and offers 16 rounds of power somewhere between a .357 Magnum and a .41 Magnum-all in a lightweight package. Well...lightweight to those of us accustomed to the magnum sixguns. :lol: All in all, a pretty formidable instrument.

 

[sargents1]

Loved the grip on my G19 Gen 4. Wonder if the G20 will receive the upgrade??

Ask and you shall recieve: Gen4 G20 review.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=493357


You mentioned that the G20 felt like it weighed ~30oz....well it does.

Per the Glock website http://us.glock.com/products/model/g20 it weighs 28oz unloaded and about 40oz loaded.
For comparison the G22 (.40S&W) weighs about 23oz unloaded and 34 loaded. The G20 is heavier because of the slide, which is made heavier to help dampen the snap of the 10mm. And it works too. A G20 with 10mm target loads (180gr bullet @ 1100ft/s) is more pleasant to shoot than a G22 with typical .40S&W loads (180gr @1000ft/s).

Plus, if you get the G20 you can get a conversion barrel from Lone Wolf to shoot .40S&W, .357 Sig or 9X25 Dillon. All of those cartridges are based on the 10mm which lets you use the same magazines.


FYI CZ does not make a 10mm (they do 9mm, .40S&W and .45ACP only).
Tanfoglio makes a near-clone of the CZ in 10mm (and 9mm, .40, .45, .38 Super).

 

[9mm Texan]

30 oz????? Better take some vitamins or stay away from 1911s lol. Any 1911 platform is going to get you into the nearly 40 oz category dry. Seriously, in the heavier calibers I prefer to stay in all steel guns with longer slides/barrels. The EAA with the 6' slide is attractive to me . Never checked out the CZ, but I'll have to do that.

 

[aWoods]

The glock seems to be the best design for handling that recoil. Also you can get aftermarket ported barrel if you want, or even a compensated model from the factory. Plus, you can't beat the light weight!