Winchester large pistol primers

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Deer Hunter said:
What did happen?
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There were a lot of ammo cans, some containing loaded ammo and some containing primers.
Due to the nature of the fire it was hard to tell which ammo can was which afterwards.
The cans all popped open. There were a few cans with some obvious holes in them, but most were open and empty. What specifically caused the holes I do not know. This was a shop containing thousands of primers and tens of thousands of rounds of ammo. There were zero explosions.
 
No explosions, but one heck of a hot fire for awhile I bet. When I was a kid my dad loaded shot shells as he shot competition Trap & Skeet. He used, I believe, 7625, red dot and green dot. They were in cylindrical red metal canisters. Does this seem correct as the type of container back the 1980’s, or is my memory taking a downward turn today? I know I woke uglier than yesterday, which surprised me. I guess being ugly does not have a saturation point.
 
HumphreyDaBear said:
…red dot and green dot. They were in cylindrical red metal canisters. Does this seem correct as the type of container back the 1980's, or is my memory taking a downward turn today?
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When I started in the late 80’s, the cylindrical 1-pound canisters for the Hercules brand powders were cardoard. They had metal tops and bottoms, and a plastic pour spout that you’d have to pull up.

They had almost a light foil-like finish on at least part of the cylindrical canister… like this:

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AJGUNNER said:
They make up a large portion of what is left of my lifetime supply inventory. I bought most of mine back in the 80's and maybe early 90's. I love it when I open a fresh brick and find that I had put the receipt inside. Most were $9.99 per 1000 but I have found some that I was gouged on with the receipt showing I paid $14.99 per 1000. I have loaded and fired unknown thousands of rounds and never had a primer issue with either Winchester or CCI.

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Same Here. And When I Posted I Paid $10.00 A Brick And $10.00 A Lb. For Powder I Was Told I Was Full Of CRap.... The Good Ole Days. Who Knew They Would End...
 
In the 70s I paid $6.33 WW 748 powder. I expect that that equates to about $18.00/pound in today's money.

All Winchester powders are Ball powder which is notoriously hard to light. Winchester primers tend to be hotter. In the 70s-80s would light BLc2 powder without hangfires. I experienced hangfires with CCI Large Rifle primers with this powder, switched to Winchester LR primers, problem went away. That was over 40 years ago. I am still using them. I have a friend/customer who is a black powder cartridge rifle shooter/competitor, he says the Winchester LR primers most closely performs like the primers of the 19th Century.
 
the_leper_colony said:
If you use a Lee Auto Prime (hand held tool) or Auto Prime II (press mounted), I think Lee originally recommended using either CCI or Winchester primers to avoid accidents.

As always, best to play it safe!
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Using my LEE Classic I was reloading some .222 last night and used the CCI primers. I see no reference, in the instruction sheet, as to what type to use.
 
Fox Mike said:
Using my LEE Classic I was reloading some .222 last night and used the CCI primers. I see no reference, in the instruction sheet, as to what type to use.
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Yeah, a good friend has some kind of Lee primer feed/priming tool mounted on his Lee turret press (a semi-progressive setup), and he says the instructions don't mention any restrictions on primer brand/type. Lee apparently has definite recommendations for some of their priming tools, but not for others. I emailed them, asking about using Fiocchi primers in the Lee Auto Prime tools I use, and they emailed back very quickly. If in doubt, I might check their web site for an email address, and shoot 'em a specific question. They seem to be good folks.
:)
 
Over the last 12 years there has been a deficit of Large Pistol Primers throughout the industry. Some brainiac at Vista Outdoors changed 45 Auto to small primers. You think that is the cause of the lack of interest in LPPs with the manufacturers? Is Vista trying to get the consumer to accept smalls universally? Many new rifle cartridges use small RPs.
 
Sam Summey said:
Over the last 12 years there has been a deficit of Large Pistol Primers throughout the industry. Some brainiac at Vista Outdoors changed 45 Auto to small primers. You think that is the cause of the lack of interest in LPPs with the manufacturers? Is Vista trying to get the consumer to accept smalls universally? Many new rifle cartridges use small RPs.
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No problem with them.
 
greenmtnguy said:
I prefer WLP when I can find them, buy CCI if I cannot. The Winchester primers seem to work well with all loads I use from mild to somewhat wild.
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AJGUNNER said:
They make up a large portion of what is left of my lifetime supply inventory. I bought most of mine back in the 80's and maybe early 90's. I love it when I open a fresh brick and find that I had put the receipt inside. Most were $9.99 per 1000 but I have found some that I was gouged on with the receipt showing I paid $14.99 per 1000. I have loaded and fired unknown thousands of rounds and never had a primer issue with either Winchester or CCI.

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FOLLOWING UP
been shooting my recently purchased WLP for a while, went through 1000 of the 3000.
Used H110, RAMSHOT enforcer, WIN 244 and HP38, all good.
Bought some Remington LP, and still have 300 CCI magnum LP (that I'm saving for some unknown reason?)

All my shooting is indoors, in a nice temperature controlled environment, so to all you bear hunters, don't go by me.
 
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