Super Wrangler versus Single Six?

Star43 said:
A used stainless Single Six, with no mag cylinder, no box or paperwork, and very poor fitting grips. For 900 bucks. God Bless America !!
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I'm glad I decided NOT to sell my NM Single Six 6.5" Convertible! Shipped in 1988, the trigger has a little creep, and slack, need to get an action job on it.

The prices are steep now here In Louisiana as well, I wanted a convertible in the 5.5 inch barrel, but I'm just going to hold on to it. It's the only .22 revolver I have but need to find another used one.
Makes a handy carrying around the yard gun for snakes.
 
Interesting. If you do a Google search for both Heritage and Taurus you get exactly the same address and the Google Map takes you to the same place labeled "Taurus Holdings". Both websites are extensive, well-done, and likely done by the same advertising firm.

The Heritage website shows an unbelievable line of single-action revolvers at essentially unbeatable prices. If you want something, chances are Heritage makes it. Makes Ruger look like beginners.

Guess we'll see how important a shiny blued finish is these days. :confused:
 
Taurus owns Heritage. Has for awhile. Yeah, I've seen the Heritage and for the money they seem pretty good. Won't argue that at all. But you know, my handgun I bought was a FIE Texas Ranger back in 1986. Seemed ok but sure spit lead back at me when shooting it. After a couple of times of that, I bought my first Single Six. No spitting of lead and more accurate, and if course way better in build and quality. Sure it was more expensive than the Texas Ranger, but that's life. By the way, look up a the Texas Ranger and you'll see it looks EXACTLY like a Heritage. Wirh FIE, the guns/parts came from Italy and put together here in Florida. Still is the same thing. When FIE shut down in early 90's, lo and behold Heritage started, (son of FIE owner) and made Heritages in same darn building same way as FIE. And to be honest, my Ranger which still looks like new seems to be better built than the Heritages of today in my opinion. Ruger makes a far superior gun, again in my own opinion.
 
I still have the original box that my Texas Ranger came in. Right on the pretty silver colored box, it say " made 100% in America". I guess that's how they can say that legally as they are put together here in the USA. Again, God Bless America !!
 
I was at the gun counter if my local shop the other day. They had just received 2 Super Wranglers. One in bronze/black and one in silver/black. I asked to see one. Yes, it looks and mostly feels like a NM Single Six without the refined fit and finish. The loading gate wasn’t too stiff, the hammer moved smoothly- but they must have put a 10lb trigger spring in this thing. Ugh. The sights were good. I pulled the cylinder and everything was as expected.

They were priced at $259. Seems like a deal. If there was an all black one I might have been tempted. But honestly, when I can find an OM Single Six for $100 more, that temptation sorta evaporates for me. I’m sure Ruger will sell all they can make, and Wolff better start churning out a bunch of lighter trigger springs…

Bottom line- for me- if you want a tool, it fits the bill perfectly. But to me, my guns are companions- I take pride in them and enjoy just holding them. The Super Wrangler just doesn’t do it for me.
 
I don't think you will find a Single Six for just a hundred more. Not in California in my opinion. I was just at Bass Pro here in the valley yesterday. That was an experience. I asked the "clerk" to see if they had any, as there was only a Heritage for $179. and a regular Wrangler there for $209. No Super Wrangler at all. The best part is when I asked the guy about a SS. He looked at me and said:. Is that a new gun ? I haven't seen one yet" I told him the SS was the original. He had no idea. There was a customer nearby who was listening and chimed in by saying "you won't find a Single Six here" He too goes to different shops in CA here and says he hasn't seen one yet either. He then said, Look at this crowd here. Do you think they want to pay 700 or 800 for a SS when they can buy Wrangler for $209......Then he said most of these people may opt for the Heritage as they can save $30 !!! . He then said that he bought a Wrangler himself but knows it is Not a Single Six.
 
I’m not saying you can walk into any LGS and find an inexpensive new Single Six. I probably should have quantified myself. What I am saying is that with dedication and patience you can find a used SS for the mid $350 range, and not only have a great gun but a piece of history. I prefer the fixed sight 3 Screw models. But the adjustable sight models are out there too. The last one I bought, on GunBroker, was $330. And it’s a beauty queen that’s a joy to hold and shoot. Pic below of my $330 SS and my standard Wrangler.

The local pawn shop has quite a few NM Single Sixes in the $500 range. I think they’re overpriced.

Take a look at my picture below. Which would you rather own? Myself- it’s the top one.
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I recently bought a stainless Single Six for $425 and thought I stole it......My Wrangler was $175.......I suppose it's all supply and demand
 
I agree 100 %. There is no comparison. The guy I was talking to yesterday agrees also. There is nothing like an original SS. Speaking only for myself, I am not a Gun Broker kind of guy. I like to go someplace, see something, hold it and feel it. Then buy it......I am old school. I have a 3 screw and other single sixes so I am happy. I go to a lot of places to look and it's ok if I walk out of there empty. It makes me appreciate what I have now.
Actnbill said:
I recently bought a stainless Single Six for $425 and thought I stole it......My Wrangler was $175.......I suppose it's all supply and demand
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I think you did pretty darn good in today's market!
 
Bear Paw Jack said:
You did steal it. Most of the very clean but used SS are going for closer to $600, here.
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I don't know what state you are in, but in CA, forget finding a new one, and even places that have used guns, fat chance of seeing one there too. Pawn shops for most part around me don't even sell guns, maybe a few with long guns, but no handguns.....yeah, all in all, he got a pretty darn good deal !! Enjoy it.!!
 
I'm waiting to see if Ruger puts one of the 7.5" barrels on the Super Wrangler. They have them on the Wrangler. If they do I'll buy the first one I can.
 
That gun will sure have some "heft" to it. The metal composition they use is solid, but a little heavy. I have only seen one around here.
 
I hope you like it if you ever find one. The Super Wrangler I saw had a zinc like metal which seemed to be kind of hefty.......Speaking of weight, I used to get a kick out of the listed weights for the blued single six and the stainless version in the Ruger catalogs. Just handle them. The stainless is quite a bit heavier. I have both and it's easy to see by just holding them.
 
Meant to say that Ruger had them listed as weighing the same. Blue gun vs stainless gun. Not to me.
 
Let's face it. Stainless steel is heavier than aluminum. On the stainless guns, the whole gun is stainless. There is a lot of aluminum on the blued gun. It's ok. The aluminum is very tough and I would want aluminum over plastic any day.
 
Personally, I don't get all the controversy and derision over the Wrangler line? Think they're total complete garbage and don't want one? Then don't buy one PERIOD...Ruger is selling all they can produce without you and the Sun absolutely WILL rise tomorrow morning. My recently acquired Super Wrangler is my 5th and probably last?.. unless they offer some other unbelievably cool carbine version that I cannot possibly resist...🤩 I also happen to own three times as many Single-Sixes, both old and new models and don't plan on selling or trading any of them off anytime soon either. Both have a place in my firearms collection and will continue to be thoroughly enjoyed in my backyard range...Life is good in my non Gun-Snob world. 😉👍
 
I agree that there should be no controversy at all. If a guy likes a gun and buys it, and is happy with it, God Bless America........personally I am Not a gun snob at all. I have always bought what I liked and what I thought was a good price and value. For example when one thinks of a gun snob and especially when it comes to Revolvers, back in the day, you had to have a "Smith"......so many guys fell into that line. Heck I was born in Mass. where Smiths were/are made (for now, anyway) and I thought the Ruger was a better gun and a better deal. That's "me". Summing up, if one wants a Wrangler, go for it. If it works for you, that's great. I am Not knocking a Wrangler, never meant to. I was just speaking up for the Single Six, the original from 1953. That sadly, has seen it's best days gone by, because it is too costly to make in this day & age, in this "modern" market.
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15 years ago I went in a local pawnshop and bought a like new NM Stainless Single Six with both cylinders for $200.00 plus tax and at the time felt like I paid too much. Guess I did ok. It's still like new as I have only put a few 50 round boxes thru it.

CHEVYINLINE6.
 
Sounds like me about 25 years ago. I see a "like new in a box" single six and say to myself: I need another one of these like a hole in a head. Could be 28 years ago. The gun shop guy who, back then, they actually knew something about guns says. "This gun belonged to an older fella who bought the gun here a number of years ago. He bought the gun. a box of CCI 22 mags and a 100 pack of CCI 22 rounds. He says the old guy was old school and only filled the LR cylinder 2 Times with 5 rounds each. The shell boxes were in the gun's box along with the unfired mag cylinder. Gun shop guy says this gun is like brand new. Only 10 rounds thru it. This will make a great shooter for you. He said he knew the guy pretty well, who was a good guy...... I did not need that gun but bought it. To this day, the same boxes of bullets , the mag cylinder in the red felt baga, and manual with the guys name on it are still intact. I never shot it, but you know every once in a while, I pull it out and look at it all. It may sound crazy, but it has become one of my favorite guns, even though I never shot it. I just think about the old guy and feel I'm just kind of taking care of it for him. It'll go to my grandson some day just as it is right now and tell him how I got it. Till then.......
 
Just noticed your name, chevyinline6. I have a 69 Chevy C 10 Short bed with an in line 6, in my garage. Belonged to my wife's father back in the day. Less than 100,000 original miles on it. Some day I'll finish it and drive it around. Some day.......
 
Just because someone found an Old Model Single Six for $330 doesn't mean that's normal. Last one I sold was a 5.5" fixed sight model from 1965 with minor blue wear and some handling marks. I put it for sale on Texas Hunting Forum and it sold for $450 in about 90 minutes...and it was before the sharp increases in prices and inflation. Might take a couple days but I could get $500 for the same gun today.

I still haven't figured out the appeal of the Super Wrangler. I don't like the bronze or silver but might be able to stomach the painted look of the black ones. But I would rather spend more for a nicer gun or buy a Heritage if I insisted on new and cheap. But then again, I don't buy new guns, so the marketing folks don't care about me.
 
Yeah, ain't that the truth. Marketing people don't really seem to care about us "old timers" much. They want to sell stuff, today !!! They can't be totally stupid. They must know that today's quality of manufacturing is not the same as back in the day. They can't afford to do that, or maybe I should say, they don't care to want to do that. It's all about making money. Most real young guys only know what they see and is available today.
 
GasGuzzler said:
Just because someone found an Old Model Single Six for $330 doesn't mean that's normal. Last one I sold was a 5.5" fixed sight model from 1965 with minor blue wear and some handling marks. I put it for sale on Texas Hunting Forum and it sold for $450 in about 90 minutes...and it was before the sharp increases in prices and inflation. Might take a couple days but I could get $500 for the same gun today.

I still haven't figured out the appeal of the Super Wrangler. I don't like the bronze or silver but might be able to stomach the painted look of the black ones. But I would rather spend more for a nicer gun or buy a Heritage if I insisted on new and cheap. But then again, I don't buy new guns, so the marketing folks don't care about me.
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I’ve probably got 20 OM Single Sixes that are on my watch list on GB. Not with the intention of buying, just to see how prices are going. The majority of them are in the low $400 range. And most of them have been relisted several times for no-sales. The market for the OM seems to be the mid $300’s. Every other week there’s one that goes in the low $300 range. Granted- you can’t just go out and find a cheap one. But with patience you will eventually.

Like you say- if one of the ones I saw was all black- I might have bitten. The colors do nothing for me. Actually, some of the standard Wrangler colors I find repulsive. Personal choice.

I don’t want my remarks to dissuade anyone from buying one. I have no doubt they are great functioning guns. And much more mechanically refined than a Heritage any day.
 
I bought my Wrangler for $175..... It is what it was designed to be.... I looked at the Heritage Rough Rider first but I couldn't get past it's ugly safety on the left side of the hammer...... totally ruins the revolver's look for me.....
 
Star43 said:
Just noticed your name, chevyinline6. I have a 69 Chevy C 10 Short bed with an in line 6, in my garage. Belonged to my wife's father back in the day. Less than 100,000 original miles on it. Some day I'll finish it and drive it around. Some day.......
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I was into Chevy 235 and 261 engines that were built from 1954 to 1962. I spent 40 years collecting, rebuilding, improving and hot rodding them before I got sick and sold them all and all the hop up parts for the engines. I am from the Napa Valley myself.
 
CHEVYINLINE6 said:
I was into Chevy 235 and 261 engines that were built from 1954 to 1962. I spent 40 years collecting, rebuilding, improving and hot rodding them before I got sick and sold them all and all the hop up parts for the engines. I am from the Napa Valley myself.
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Yeah, they are great trucks I bet you sure had fun doing what you did. This one we have is all stock and just sits in the garage collecting dust. Needs a carburetor and Few other things. I'm in central valley. Too bad you are a distance away. I would have you come over and fix it up !! 🙂
 
I guess I'm what some would call a "used gun snob". I seldom even look at new guns for sale, just not interested in them. I figure if a gun is a good design and good execution of that design, it will stand the test of time and many thousands of rounds with it's reputation intact. Ruger Single-Sixes have stood the test of time. Wranglers have not....not yet anyway. Give them another 20 years to see how they do and I might buy one...if I will even be able to hold one then.
All this comparing the price of a new Wrangler or Super Wrangler to a new Single Six is pretty meaningless to me since I only buy used ones anyway. As a matter of fact I even avoid Single Sixes made after about 1985.
 
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