twobisquit
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So how many elk and moose does it take to feed 22 wolves for a week? This pack was seen 2 miles from the Cabin and Alkali feedgrounds in the Gros Venture in January 2010.
Wyoming Wolf Pack
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callshot
Blackhawk
When the Elk & Moose are all gone, will the wolves also go away, or will they get after the cattle and sheep? I am afraid to go into the mountains since there is no law that protects me from them. 
Steve
Steve
Ltdshooter
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Man could I have some fun sitting on the same ridge you took that photo but with my tactical 308 bolt gun and not a camera! :wink:
flatgate
Hawkeye
We need to call in an air strike!
JDAM's!
flatgate
JDAM's!
flatgate
But . . . but . . . they're just big, furry, lovable DOGGIES.
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M'BOGO
Buckeye
Ale-8(1)":1xvuv004 said:
They play with snoopy and talk to bambi....
caryc
Hawkeye
They disable their prey by hamstringing it and disabling it so it can no longer run. Then they start eating on the rear end while the prey is still alive and helpless. Hopefully it dies from blood loss before they eat too much.
Sure, they're Gods creatures and deserve a place in nature just like any critter but they are hardly the cuddly, furry and somewhat romantic creatures that some make them out to be.
Sure, they're Gods creatures and deserve a place in nature just like any critter but they are hardly the cuddly, furry and somewhat romantic creatures that some make them out to be.
I love it, in Alaska they can shot them from a plane! The Alaskan's play right when it comes to Wolves. IMHO
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twobisquit
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Sorry I was not able to credit the photographer. The pictue was from an email going around. The email also contained pictures of some cat hunter's dogs in Montana that were attacked by a wolf pack and were not suitable for family viewing.
Seeing that pack of 22 wolves makes me understand why Great-Grandad carried 2 Colts and a rifle.
Seeing that pack of 22 wolves makes me understand why Great-Grandad carried 2 Colts and a rifle.
contender
Ruger Guru
Not ALL easterners love wolves! Some of us are smarter than that. I do believe they have their place,, but like ANY animal,, they need controlling. Unfortunately,, they are too protected & are in serious need of control. (I like the airstrike comment!)
targetshootr
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I've heard we have wolves in NC. Haven't seen any though. Got plenty of coyotes.
contender
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The state of NC did try a re-introduction of the Red Wolf. It didn't take. (Thank goodness!)
seeemmiss
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Thought all the westerners were dedicated to the three S's.
Shoot
Shovel
Shut-up
Shoot
Shovel
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Huuh!! What? :roll:! We don't know anything. :lol:
Hashknife Hartley
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It's not the political types, it's the environmentalists, like the Southwest Center for Biological Diversity and Wildlife Federation. They bring so much pressure on the political types and administrators of the land, via the courts, that the wolves, grizzly bears, spotted owls, Southwest Willow Flycatchers, etc. win. Get used to it, it isn't going to get any better because they have lots of money, a lot from big pocket back east donors. I dealt with them for years while working for the Forest Service and they are a major PITA.
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targetshootr
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The people who got wolves reintroduced are probably the same ones who brought elk back to NC. And they're probably the same ones who brought buffalo back from the brink. They may never be popular but even Teddy Roosevelt is considered a wild-eyed liberal by todays standards.
RugerBoi
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:shock: Well for you dodo's that can't read...the answer to the original question is two to four wolves eat one quadruped per week. That is unless there are a lot of young in the herds that are easy to catch, then they just kill them, eat the soft parts, move on and kill the next one, maybe eat some of it...In the spring when the cows are calving, the wolves don't have the patience to wait for the birth, they rip the calf out of the cow, eat part, and leave them both for dead. Someone asked me if I was going to buy a tag for wolves now that we have a season. I said "why?, I didn't need one last year!" RB
Scout943
Blackhawk
I like the SHOOT, SHOVEL, AND SHUTUP idea!!! Some of us here in NEW YORK do that when its needed!! :roll: :roll: :wink: :wink:
David LaPell
Blackhawk
We have them here too in the Adirondacks, despite what the state officials like to tell the tourists. Every year someone bags a 70-80 pound "coyote" and then after a battery of tests by a wildlife biologist they determine it to be wolf. The excuse (since they keep telling everyone there are no wolves in NY) is that one somehow migrated from Canada, or my personal favorite, one somehow got away from a game farm or something. I am still waiting for a tourist to get eaten, because that is what it takes for people to realize these are not furry little critters like in Call of the Wild. They are predators, and they kill whatever they can to survive. Far too many cartoons and Hollywood movies have made these animals into something they are not.
The wolf in the no. west made the cover of the latest issue of nat. geographic. Quite a story and a BIG problem.
Big city people that don't even know what dirt looks like run this great state of kali.
Eric
Big city people that don't even know what dirt looks like run this great state of kali.
Eric
RugerBoi
Single-Sixer
:evil: One more post on this before I go duct-tape my head to keep it from blowing up...The Elk population of Idaho, a State with 70% federal land, is now down 57% as admitted to by the Game Dept. in the news yesterday. No thanks to the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, and other limp wristed, do-gooder, organizations that allowed such a mindless action to be taken in the first place. Now the timber wolf, that really was endangered, is long gone, and the Canadian has taken it's place, along with millions in revenue from hunters that will never come back to stay in the cabins, and hunt with the outfitters, or buy the gas and bullets, and long underwear.....And my 62 year old chance of getting the one bull I've never shot in Idaho just dropped to a 1 in 60 chance. Thank you very much you green sunsabithces......Greg in Boise...and you can mail this to the Governor.
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Ever since Little red riding hood, I've been wary of wolves. Although callshot may be a wolf in sheeps clothing, I'll make an exception for him :lol: .
We have a terrible nuisance bear problem in western Md. We started a hunting season for them a few years back, under very controlled conditions. People in the central part of ther state(i,e. liberals) were apalled. The state representative from western Md. said they would be more than happy to trap the bears, and re-locate them to the central part of the state. Of course the state reps. from the central part of state declined the generous offer :lol: , and the hunt was on .
We have a terrible nuisance bear problem in western Md. We started a hunting season for them a few years back, under very controlled conditions. People in the central part of ther state(i,e. liberals) were apalled. The state representative from western Md. said they would be more than happy to trap the bears, and re-locate them to the central part of the state. Of course the state reps. from the central part of state declined the generous offer :lol: , and the hunt was on .
contender
Ruger Guru
targetshootr; I take offense to the statement about who brought elk back to NC. I AM ONE OF THE PEOPLE DIRECTLY involved in the re-introduction of elk in NC. I will say that an eco-friendly group known as "Friends of the Smokies" were also involved with JUST their money. They did not do any of the work etc in getting it done. It is a positive program,, and hopefully one day we'll be able to hunt native elk in native elk lands of NC.
That said,, the wolf problem is due to the eco-freaks who refuse to allow proper controls & limit the numbers of them to the carrying capacity of the land.
Open the season,, reduce the numbers,, and plan for permanent controls.
PS; If I lived in the west,, I'd follow the "3-S's."
That said,, the wolf problem is due to the eco-freaks who refuse to allow proper controls & limit the numbers of them to the carrying capacity of the land.
Open the season,, reduce the numbers,, and plan for permanent controls.
PS; If I lived in the west,, I'd follow the "3-S's."
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I saw a red wolf here in NW Alabama a couple of years ago. Got a good, long look at it, no doubt in my mind what it was. Our biologists will tell you that we don't have any, however. A wolf hunting season would take care of a lot of the problem wouldn't it? Thin the numbers and teach them some respect. Animals with no natural enemies (most of all man) get overly bold and out of control. JMO
RugerBoi
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:shock: Hey 6guns! It's too darn late for that. The numbers were just printed for the Lolo area in North Idaho. The Elk populations are less than can sustain a hunting season. In 1989 the Jan. Airial count was 11507, and there was some decline in the area for a while over the following years because the Elk were calving in clear-cut areas and the black bears figured out the calving grounds were easy pickings...The Elk adjusted, the bear season was extended, the numbers leveled...Wolves were introduced in 1995 at which time IFG stated the Elk population in the zone at 9729. Today's numbers reported were 1473 total Elk. There is no natural predator for wolves, except starvation. There are in excess of 100 PACKS in Idaho of 4 to 12. Once they are shot at a few times, they are as hard to hunt as whitetail in dry leaves. You do the rest of the numbers, I'm going for the duct tape. RB
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Sad. They're probably like coyotes here, doesn't matter how many you shoot or trap, there's always just as many. They've seriously hurt our deer numbers, although the game department is in denial about it. As one of my friends says, "You shoot one and two come for his funeral."
My son shot a big doe with his bow a couple of years ago. She didn't fall within sight and he didn't have a good tracking light with him, so he came and got me. We got back to the sight of the shot in less than 1.5 hours, and tracked the doe. She'd gone less than 60 yards off the green patch where he shot her, and all we found was a bloody hide and some hooves.
Hunting that same green patch a few weeks later, a friend of my son's observed 11 coyotes together come through that field. This is on public hunting land.
My son shot a big doe with his bow a couple of years ago. She didn't fall within sight and he didn't have a good tracking light with him, so he came and got me. We got back to the sight of the shot in less than 1.5 hours, and tracked the doe. She'd gone less than 60 yards off the green patch where he shot her, and all we found was a bloody hide and some hooves.
Hunting that same green patch a few weeks later, a friend of my son's observed 11 coyotes together come through that field. This is on public hunting land.
