Which way men.............

[Bob Wright]

I took my niece to her doctor's appointment this morning and had to spend a little time in the waiting room. I was alone in the waiting room, and the television was turned off. The time was about 6:30 a.m.

I looked at the top magazine, Men's Journal I believe was its title. The cover photo was a creature more akin to an ape than man. He had an unkempt beard, long straggly hair. He was wearing a brown undershirt and had tattoos around his forearm. Fortunately, there was no odor emitted. The first page was a liquor advertisement, which were plenty throughout the magazine. Also, expensive watches. Among gifts suggested were sandals, short pants, and very expensive bicycles. Trinkets and jewelry were also well publicized.

My observation of men's magazines nowadays are they lean either to the barbarian or effeminate. Simply being a man, a macho man, and gentleman seem to be beyond publisher's ken.

God help us all.

Bob Wright

(Stepping down from his soap box now.)

 

[Mike J]

I haven't looked at a magazine in a long time. We do get American Rifleman here but I don't get to see it. My 13 year old daughter snags it & runs off with it as soon as it comes in. As for our society. The only thing I know to do is pray. God help us.

 

[coach]

https://www.artofmanliness.com/

 

[ned]

I am reminded of the old line- he looked like Tarzan, smelled like Cheetah, and walked like Jane

 

[GunnyGene]

I took my niece to her doctor's appointment this morning and had to spend a little time in the waiting room. I was alone in the waiting room, and the television was turned off. The time was about 6:30 a.m.

I looked at the top magazine, Men's Journal I believe was its title. The cover photo was a creature more akin to an ape than man. He had an unkempt beard, long straggly hair. He was wearing a brown undershirt and had tattoos around his forearm. Fortunately, there was no odor emitted. The first page was a liquor advertisement, which were plenty throughout the magazine. Also, expensive watches. Among gifts suggested were sandals, short pants, and very expensive bicycles. Trinkets and jewelry were also well publicized.

My observation of men's magazines nowadays are they lean either to the barbarian or effeminate. Simply being a man, a macho man, and gentleman seem to be beyond publisher's ken.

God help us all.

Bob Wright

(Stepping down from his soap box now.)

Magazines are not immune to the recent infatuation with hyperbole. It sells magazines, and that's all they care about.

 

[Mobuck]

I come from a time when men were men and women were submissive. Golly, I miss those times.

 

[Merle1948]

I come from a time when men were men and women were submissive. Golly, I miss those times.

I thought you were going to say "and women were glad of it" :mrgreen:

 

[protoolman]

A few years back my son went to college. The state college put out a paper with recommendations for what to bring. One was a shower tote with shave and shower gear. I just gave him a leather Dopp kit. He got many compliments from other guys on it, and questions on where to get one? My wife luckily lost that argument as I figured what was good for us servicemen was good for the college boys.

 

[blume357]

One of my favorite things to do was go to the salon to get my hair cut and if I had to wait to sit down and look through GQ (Gentleman's Quarterly) magazine. I always thought that had to be one of the most bizarre things to see if someone walked in.. me reading GQ magazine..... I look and am about as far different from one of those guys in that magazine as one can get.

Sounds like GQ is the 'other' magazine... not like men's quarterly... GQ has mostly what I call 'pretty boys' in it.

 

[Mobuck]

"One of my favorite things to do was go to the salon to get my hair cut "

Ah, yes. When I was working, I got my hair cut at the "hair salon" next door to the Post Office. The gal was a bit short in height and LONG on hooters so by the time she reached the top of my head--well you get the idea.

 

[gunzo]

I guess this means I have to cut off my man bun, call in a big order at Sheplers & buy a carton of Marlboros.

 

[CraigC]

Fortunately, there was no odor emitted.

Now that right there was funny!

My observation of men's magazines nowadays are they lean either to the barbarian or effeminate.

Or my favorite, the effeminate barbarian. Wearers of ironic beards and man buns (more aptly named "douche-knot"). Tattoos are no longer the bastion of Marines or bikers but are now a fashion statement for all. See-through undershirts and pants that are two sizes too small and 4" too short are trendy. Welcome to the age of feelings and poor taste! :roll:

 

[bogus bill]

Don't buy anything that hasn't got "tactical" in its name. I`m baaad!

 

[CGDustDevil]

I solved the "Waiting room experience" many years ago. I bring my own reading material. My personal library is deeper than years I have left, so there's no good reason at all to subject myself to television or modern 'culture'.

 

[Mobuck]

"Or my favorite, the effeminate barbarian. "

That would be the guy who kills a tiger with his bare hands and then cries because the tiger's dead?

 

[Bob Wright]

I solved the "Waiting room experience" many years ago. I bring my own reading material. My personal library is deeper than years I have left, so there's no good reason at all to subject myself to television or modern 'culture'.

Normally I don't read while in the waiting room. More often than not there are folks there who either are interesting to talk with, or they need someone to talk with.

I've had many conversations with anxious young folks, scared of what lay ahead of them, who seemed to benefit by some good conversation. Doctor's visits can be made more fun by visiting with someone with some light or uplifting conversation. Sometimes a little spiritual help can go a long way in lifting burdens uncovered by a doctors visit. Sharing Scripture, praying, or good jokes, all help in the healing process. Or at times, just listening.

Bob Wright

 

[Hellraiser]

Well Bob… this is not a criticism. I have great respect for you on this site. You are a great poster with great ideas.

But I think you need a different take on what a person sees with the eyeballs... and that person's impressions of what they just saw with those eyeballs.

Take me, for instance... most folks looking at me with my long hair... would think that I am a walking, ultra-wuss. (Probably most folks on this site. Which, btw... is perfectly OK... I don't really give a cr*p.)

In the past, had many folks who misjudge and previously treated me as... "effeminate-like". But, ya know... it always worked out to their detriment. Yeah... in those encounters, sometimes I suffered greatly. But, here I am still standing... and by the grace of the Almighty... have always prevailed.

DON'T JUDGE FOLKS BY THEIR LOOKS... judge them by their actions... and what their mouths espouse. Magazines are nothing but outhouse fodder. Cosmopolitan is my greatest camp anal-cleaning device.

On my horse, while moving, I can still stand in the saddle... and take my bow and kill rabbits. But at 63, just not at a gallop anymore... just moving slowly, of course. You can ask around... hair don't really matter for somebody who can do. And hair does not make a man... or disintegrate him.

Bob... this has not been a criticism of you or this post:
But I see and feel prejudiced everyday... and have for over 25 years. Just because of my looks. And I don't give a dam.

Just another viewpoint... hope ya'll understand.

^..^

p.s. For everybody else... this Thanksgiving... and everyday of the rest of your short-a$$ lives... give thanks to the Father for your blessings in this life.

 

[Merle1948]

Well Bob… this is not a criticism. I have great respect for you on this site. You are a great poster with great ideas.

But I think you need a different take on what a person sees with the eyeballs... and that person's impressions of what they just saw with those eyeballs.

Take me, for instance... most folks looking at me with my long hair... would think that I am a walking, ultra-wuss. (Probably most folks on this site. Which, btw... is perfectly OK... I don't really give a cr*p.)

In the past, had many folks who misjudge and previously treated me as... "effeminate-like". But, ya know... it always worked out to their detriment. Yeah... in those encounters, sometimes I suffered greatly. But, here I am still standing... and by the grace of the Almighty... have always prevailed.

DON'T JUDGE FOLKS BY THEIR LOOKS... judge them by their actions... and what their mouths espouse. Magazines are nothing but outhouse fodder. Cosmopolitan is my greatest camp anal-cleaning device.

On my horse, while moving, I can still stand in the saddle... and take my bow and kill rabbits. But at 63, just not at a gallop anymore... just moving slowly, of course. You can ask around... hair don't really matter for somebody who can do. And hair does not make a man... or disintegrate him.

Bob... this has not been a criticism of you or this post:
But I see and feel prejudiced everyday... and have for over 25 years. Just because of my looks. And I don't give a dam.

Just another viewpoint... hope ya'll understand.

^..^

p.s. For everybody else... this Thanksgiving... and everyday of the rest of your short-a$$ lives... give thanks to the Father for your blessings in this life.

well said !!!

 

[Bob Wright]

This was my original post: He had an unkempt beard, long straggly hair. My point was that he looked like a savage.

No man, no matter how rebellious against propriety, should look as if he were unbathed or neglected.

Bob Wright

 

[Mike J]

I guess every generation has it's styles & prejudices. I remember being a kid & people talking about men with long hair looking like women. I never really thought long hair alone made a man look effeminate. Now long hair with certain dress & behavior, then I would think that. However when I see a young guy with a man bun wearing skinny jeans I do wonder why he is trying to look like a chick. I'm not saying I think he is gay (I don't know one way or the other & don't really want to) but if he isn't I don't know why he is trying to look like a girl.

I have known lots of folks with tattoos. Not my thing. If you want them go for it. I do not consider them to be as informative & significant as I used to though (they used to mean stuff).

I guess I'm turning a bit of an old reactionary. It doesn't really matter. I still try to treat folks with respect. Some things just don't make sense to me & they really don't have to.

 

[Bob Wright]

I'll put it this way:

You say "DON'T JUDGE FOLKS BY THEIR LOOKS.."

Suppose I'm hiring a person, man or woman, makes no difference. But that person will interact with my clients at some time or another. Two folks come in for an interview. Both seem equally qualified for the job opening, both have good credentials. One is neat and business like in their appearance, the other slovenly dressed, unkempt and unwashed, generally rebellious in bearing. Which one would I hire?

You can bet your bippy I'm going to hire the one who will make the effort to be presentable, and to represent me and my company with my clients. You see, that person is going to represent me.

I am a Christian. I represent the God of the Universe.


Bob Wright

 

[Kevin]

Bob:
I’ve seen magazines like what you are talking about. I love your description of the guy. But I’m afraid men with that appearance are the “standard” these days. I bought something from The Filson Company earlier this year. I get there catalogs from time to time now. All their male models advertising clothing and jackets and such look like the man you described.

Again though, I loved your description of him... “more ape than man” straggly hair et cetera.

I hate to say it, but I think it comes down to what women like and what they think about men. If women didn’t like the way that model looks. He would be dressed differently.

 

[CGDustDevil]

I solved the "Waiting room experience" many years ago. I bring my own reading material. My personal library is deeper than years I have left, so there's no good reason at all to subject myself to television or modern 'culture'.

Normally I don't read while in the waiting room. More often than not there are folks there who either are interesting to talk with, or they need someone to talk with.

I've had many conversations with anxious young folks, scared of what lay ahead of them, who seemed to benefit by some good conversation. Doctor's visits can be made more fun by visiting with someone with some light or uplifting conversation. Sometimes a little spiritual help can go a long way in lifting burdens uncovered by a doctors visit. Sharing Scripture, praying, or good jokes, all help in the healing process. Or at times, just listening.

Bob Wright

Bob - You certainly have the right idea! Sometimes all it takes is one person to smile or say "Hi" to break enough ice for a conversation to begin. Trouble is that it's getting harder to find people who don't have their noses buried in their 'mobile device'!

Regards, Pete

 

[blackhawknj]

I agree you shouldn't judge on appearances alone, at the same time some people use their appearance to "make a statement", and "hey, look at me",whether it's defying social conventions, or "power shoes" an expensive Rolex watch, etc.

 

[Hellraiser]

Bob Wright...

It's OK, friend... I didn't mean anything by the post. It was basically a warning... to not judge books by their covers. As far as business-owners are concerned... as a small business owner myself... I hire and fire people every year. A business has a life of its own... and represents its customers. When I interview... I don't judge the "person"... but just how he or she would interact with the customers. (e.g., I have never seen a 350 lb. airline stewardess. That does not mean they are not good folks.)

Bob... as I said earlier... it was not a slam on you... or this fine post of yours. It was just a slam on the folks who gave me these leaky scars on my body over the years. Henceforth... I will steer clear... and leave you and your posts alone.

And Bob, sure hope you... and all of the fine members of this forum... HAVE A SAFE AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!

^..^

 

[bogus bill]

1 Corinthians 11:14-15
Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering.

 

[wheelgun1958]

I come from a time when men were men and women were submissive. Golly, I miss those times.

I thought you were going to say "and women were glad of it" :mrgreen:

If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

 

[exavid]

I come from a time when men were men and women were submissive. Golly, I miss those times.

:shock: :shock: :shock: WOW!!! that must have been a LOOOONNG TIME AGO!!

Heck, I didn't know there were submissive women.

 

[exavid]

I don't want to hear sneers about men who wear their pants too tight. I don't let my jeans sag low but as far as being tight in the waistband, that's a function of the expansion of the universe. I'm expanding and my pants are apparently shielded from that in my closet.
One thing I can't stand is where so many guys go for haircuts. Now I don't have much left but when I do go to the barber it's a real barber shop, kinda old and worn, just walk ins, no appointments real old school. In fact my barber carries a nice little 9mm in a IWB holster.

 

[Merle1948]

I don't want to hear sneers about men who wear their pants too tight. I don't let my jeans sag low but as far as being tight in the waistband, that's a function of the expansion of the universe. I'm expanding and my pants are apparently shielded from that in my closet.
One thing I can't stand is where so many guys go for haircuts. Now I don't have much left but when I do go to the barber it's a real barber shop, kinda old and worn, just walk ins, no appointments real old school. In fact my barber carries a nice little 9mm in a IWB holster.

tough neighborhood, eh? :mrgreen: