Well, looks like I have another 45LC that needs the throats reamed. Got the Lee loader out, I sized/loaded up a few dummy rounds with Oregon Trail 250gr RN FP bullets, tried 'em in the cylinder. Not even close to fitting into the throats of my new Bisley BH 45 convertible. Will take the cylinders in to work and measure the throats.
Undersize throats...., again
- Thread starter tss106
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No need to load dummy rounds. If a .452 bullet will not push through the throat I e-mail cas and off it goes for his excellent work. Every 45 cyl. I have OM & NM have been under sized.
www.cylindersmith.com Eric
www.cylindersmith.com Eric
+1 what Eric said..... Just try to push a .452 bullet into the throat with finger pressure from the front. If it won't go it is undersized.
Now, normally you can still seat a cartridge into a cylinder with undersized throats. Sure you were trying the .45 Colt cylinder? Just asking
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Now, normally you can still seat a cartridge into a cylinder with undersized throats. Sure you were trying the .45 Colt cylinder? Just asking
.Do you have micrometers? Don't take for granted what the box says, measure the bullets. If in fact the bullets are too big, push one through the chamber/throat from the back side (like a sizing die) and measure it. Do this a few times to get an idea of the size of the throats...
WESHOOT2
Hunter
Pin gauges for holes, please.
Ten-thou mike for really measuring bullet diameter.
Ten-thou mike for really measuring bullet diameter.
Yep...., had already done the simple "push test". Was just tinkering with the Lee loader, getting set up to load a few for another 45. I'll take the cylinder into work for proper measurements. Anyone else besides me like using the old Lee loaders?
Well, check pins told the story. The largest pin that would fit the throats was a .4505+. The actual cylinders would only take a .4805+......, guess that's why I can't chamber a dummy round (I could if I pushed but they are very tight). Cylinders on my 1991 stainless convertible check at .4835+, no problems there. Any recommendations for the tight cylinders?
ChuckS1
Bearcat
So how come Ruger lets these through quality control? As much as I'd like to buy one of the new flat tops, it irritates the heck out of me to buy a gun just to have to pay a third party to make it right.
flatgate
Hawkeye
ChuckS1 said:
They fall within "Acceptable" tolerances set forth by SAAMI.
Me? I bought the proper reamers a long time ago.
flatgate
ChuckS1
Bearcat
Yeah, I know... I'd still rather pay the extra money and get something that runs right, not just within "acceptable standards", especially when Ruger has to know the issue Guess that's why I have the USFA Pre-War SAA instead of the Ruger. But I digress and don't want to highjack the OP's thread.
EDK
Single-Sixer
IF you've done much reading about 45 Colt chambered revolvers (and rifles too) you know that specifications are a little loose. HANDLOADER magazine had an article about this awhile back. RUGER, COLT and SMITH & WESSON allegedly had guns with way oversized throats...456 IIRC.. for years, and reloading was the only way to get decent accuracy...not good; not excellent!
Be happy your gun is tight...reaming the throats and chambers is a lot cheaper than a new cylinder...AND your brass will last a lot longer.
PS Reading all the "horror stories" is why I only own one 45 Colt/45 ACP chambered Old Model Ruger...and it is "trade goods."
Be happy your gun is tight...reaming the throats and chambers is a lot cheaper than a new cylinder...AND your brass will last a lot longer.
PS Reading all the "horror stories" is why I only own one 45 Colt/45 ACP chambered Old Model Ruger...and it is "trade goods."
Well, I feel a little......., uh, dumb. It dawned on me that my little Lee loader die pretty much just neck sizes the case. I think that's why after sizing a case fired thru by Blackhawk with the larger cylinder diameter, it wouldn't fit my new Bisley with the tighter cylinders. When I resize any case with my RCBS carbide set, it'll fit fine in either cylinder.
My son and I had a fine morning shooting up the remainder of my factory Winchester 255gr lead RN thru both revolvers followed up lots of fun with the Single Six. Now time to find a good plinker recipe for the 45s. I have a bottle of Trailboss to try with some 250gr RN FP slugs.
My son and I had a fine morning shooting up the remainder of my factory Winchester 255gr lead RN thru both revolvers followed up lots of fun with the Single Six. Now time to find a good plinker recipe for the 45s. I have a bottle of Trailboss to try with some 250gr RN FP slugs.
Some data on TB from me and others: Trail Boss data
bigboredad
Blackhawk
ChuckS1 said:
If you are like the majority of shooters who just shoot jacketed bullets then the throats are right on. If you are a shooter and someone who likes to take advantage of all that shooting lead can offer then you gave a way to make it shoot excellent by spending a few bucks and send it away or spend a few more in case you might get another and do it yourself. Sounds like Ruger is trying to keep both casters and the jacketed shooting people happy. They are pretty smart because no one would be happy with .456 throats like the smith and wessons had.
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