Ramps? I don't need no stinkin' ramps 8)
http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202588186977854&set=vb.1592152406&type=2&theater
http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202588186977854&set=vb.1592152406&type=2&theater
This is how you load a "Bobcat"
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He's braver than I am. That's pretty cool.
Shizzaaaam! Pretty brass ones!
gramps
gramps
graygun
Hunter
What did he say as he was dismounting the truck?
radicalrod
Hunter
I would like to see his "DISMOUNT" :lol: :lol: :lol: RR
mohavesam
Hawkeye
I've seen such stunts many times before. What I see in this video is:
No safety hat, gloves, or eye PP.
A 6000# Bobcat about to be transported on public streets - not using a rated trailer or flatbed. (a seriously illegal act). When that rig tips over onto your wife & kids... you gonna call facebook? :shock:
in a single-axle pickup converted with a dump bed! That truck cannot have even a 1-ton bed rating!
Everybody's speaking Messkin (ok, maybe this is not a US video?) Who's gonna explain to the EMTs how the Boobcat got flipped over on the NES operator?
Scads of safety violations that would put me (a safety-regulations-compliant operator) out of business on the spot.
Hire American.
No safety hat, gloves, or eye PP.
A 6000# Bobcat about to be transported on public streets - not using a rated trailer or flatbed. (a seriously illegal act). When that rig tips over onto your wife & kids... you gonna call facebook? :shock:
in a single-axle pickup converted with a dump bed! That truck cannot have even a 1-ton bed rating!
Everybody's speaking Messkin (ok, maybe this is not a US video?) Who's gonna explain to the EMTs how the Boobcat got flipped over on the NES operator?
Scads of safety violations that would put me (a safety-regulations-compliant operator) out of business on the spot.
Hire American.
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Sounds like he is speaking Spanish.graygun said:
graygun
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I know it was Spanish;the first word sounded like 'chupa' and I know what that means.
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Cholo said:
There isn't enough i's in idiot to fully describe this clown. He would only put that <expletive deleted> with one of our machines once.
caryc
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A good way to get oneself killed is treating equipment like that as though they were toys.
I wonder who was holding his beer?
I wonder who was holding his beer?
RugerHound
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How can anyone get hurt in a Bobcat!? It's a roll cage with wheels. 
Wow, I thought I would read totally different responses. He did not hurt that cat one bit. Maybe he owns it? If that was a white redneck you would all be laughing? Good grief you old coots, get out and have some fun already..... I know it was not necessary but maybe it was fun.
MohaveSam: He would be completely legal here in the US. That bobcat is 4700 pounds. That is a DRW dump truck that is fully capable of handling that weight, if he had airbags even more so. You are making assumptions that I guess you just pulled from the sky. I would not put this weight in my SRW F350 but that is because I don't have the brakes to stop the weight, not because it won't handle the weight. Most trucks/trailers are not limited by what they can carry, it is what they can stop in a legitimate distance.
Karl
MohaveSam: He would be completely legal here in the US. That bobcat is 4700 pounds. That is a DRW dump truck that is fully capable of handling that weight, if he had airbags even more so. You are making assumptions that I guess you just pulled from the sky. I would not put this weight in my SRW F350 but that is because I don't have the brakes to stop the weight, not because it won't handle the weight. Most trucks/trailers are not limited by what they can carry, it is what they can stop in a legitimate distance.
Karl
mohavesam
Hawkeye
737tdi said:
- That is what I mean by "rated". Not assumptions, just experience.
I made a good living in foundations and pour-in-place up to 15 stories for years and I know a couple things. One of them is how I see a POS low-investment sand dump box. I once had six Volvo 10 & 12 wheeled dumps running across WNY and PA, and can say any rookie Trooper who saw a Bobcat in the back of a single axle PU frame would be writing a book full of citations, and if the driver had a CDL he'd lose it by sundown.
Dual wheels on the same axle does not increase load capability; it only spreads the same weight over more square inches of tire/road contact surface. CDL lesson over.
BTW the working rated weight is about 5250# and I agree with another post, I'd send that "operator" to the house in a NY minute. I've seen the EMTs pull a torso out from under equipment and go for the shovels. Heck i've fired GOOD drivers for reckless operation... on the spot.
Well, we will have to agree to disagree. That is not a pickup. It is a dump truck. It was built as a dump truck, not re-provisioned as a dump truck. Which means it has at the minimum a 10,000 lb. rear axle. Depending if it a 450/550/650 etc.. I will give you your due, but I have had a CDL since 1982 and there is no trooper who would give me a ticket for carrying a bobcat in the trunk. As I said we may disagree but that is fine. I have never worked used my CDL much but keep it current because ya just never know when you might need to haul something bigger then what I do. Kinda like a CHL.
Karl
Karl
caryc
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737tdi said:
We're old coots for saying you have to respect any kind of construction equipment or tractors? " I know it was not necessary but maybe it was fun."
Sorry but it was not fun, it was just plain stupid. I'd hate to see that guy handling firearms. If it was a white redneck guy driving that I would still say it was incredibly stupid. I suggest you stay away from any equipment like that since you have no idea of what safety is.
If that guy owned that piece of equipment he would be treating it a little differently. If he did own it then he is a complete moron. You just don't treat valuable equipment like that if you own it.
Cary: You know me, I am an old coot. I never said what he did was responsible. There are tons of videos of folks doing things we/you/I wouldn't do but we laugh. We don't just start complaining. He may own that piece, a lot of assumptions are being made that are BS. I have seen these things rolled over on purpose a thousand times. Is that responsible?? Good grief, all I am saying is get off of the pulpit and remember what you did when you were young.
Karl
Karl
caryc
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737tdi said:
I never drove construction or farm equipment when I was young. I do have a 60 year old Ford farm tractor now and I don't do stupid stuff with it. It belongs to me so anything I screw up would cost me to repair. There have been a lot of people injured and killed with this same model tractor because they were doing something they shouldn't have done with it.
You really think I'm on a pulpit because I say you need to treat construction and farm equipment with a full respect for safety? If people want to do stupid things with them and get themselves hurt or killed I don't feel one bit sorry for them. Sorry if my being safety conscious is offensive to you.
How do you feel about firearms safety? Is it ok to set the rules aside once in a while because it's fun?
Damn Cary: You don't even remember our conversations. Remember I have the Golden Jubilee. Wow, you have a short memory. I have talked/posted too you about the old fords. Good freaking grief. I have dealt with heavy equipment everyday.
Karl
Now the firearms safety comment was BS and you know it. It can kill someone else. That man could only have hurt himself. Call me "stupid" again Cary. We are going to have a hard time being friends. I have never seen this before.
Karl
Karl
Now the firearms safety comment was BS and you know it. It can kill someone else. That man could only have hurt himself. Call me "stupid" again Cary. We are going to have a hard time being friends. I have never seen this before.
Karl
caryc
Hawkeye
737tdi said:
Karl,
Where exactly did I call "you" stupid? Of course I have nothing against you. I'm talking about the guy in the Bobcat. The firearms comment was not BS. Do you think no one has ever been killed using a Bobcat?
If you post a video of someone doing something stupid with a firearm, everyone here would jump all over them for being unsafe. Yet when they see someone being stupid with a piece of construction equipment, no one cares, it's just funny?
Once again, my problem is not with you, it's with the idiot in the Bobcat. Complete disregard for safety is what gets people killed. A lot of people think it's ok to "text" and drive too, that doesn't mean it's safe.
Sorry, but I just would never , under any conditions, condone such stupid behavior. Why do you have such a problem with me saying how stupid his actions were?
500jrh
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I've logged several thousand hours behind the sticks of both Bobcats and Case skidsteers. Nearly anything is possible with these units and a talented operator. If you wear your seatbelt and safety glasses you are perfectly safe regardless of what happens. These machines are truly unique in their capabilities when you think outside the box. What the video shows is a man who knows how to operate the machine at the limits of its capabilities. I won't speak of the carrying capacity of the vehicle it's loaded on I am not aware of it's carrying capacity. Hasn't anyone here seen Bobcat competitions? These machines are amazingly versatile, if you know what you're doing!
Well OK: I am done, I don't want to make enemy's out of this post. I think the guy was 100% right in what he did. Yes he was showing off. The truck has the capacity to carry that little guy and I just love you guys.... I wish I could post a heart.
Kisses forever.
Karl
Kisses forever.
Karl
powder smoke
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mohavesam said:
Hire American is the only thing I can agree with.
Moving that Bobcat in that Dump truck is safe and perfectly legal.
Although the load MUST be Secured. ps
Well I watched the video because I thought it was going to show me a better way to load a single action 22 caliber revolver........
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500jrh said:
If you know what you are doing... Wow, have I ever heard that before, usually just before someone is cut their last check and escorted off the place. If you know what you are doing you can take the "S" curves on the gravel part of Egg road at 50+ mph. If you have a cage and roof on a D7 you can push down standing timber, if you know what you are doing. If you know what you are doing you can get a pickup through the south corner of Jakobee swamp...
Egg road? Totaled car and a three week hospital stay.
Standing timber? Rest in peace, Mr Timm.
Jakobee swamp? The truck is still there.
Bobcats are among the safest machines made for the operator. Watching a skilled operator is akin to ballet. Safe regardless what happens? Not hardly
Cooperhawk
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Oh come on folks, it was put on the Forum just for the entertainment value, not for the edumacation part. And it was entertaining.
BTW, I have a 1952 Golden Jubilee out in my shed. That's right, a 1952.
Also a 1948 8N.
BTW, I have a 1952 Golden Jubilee out in my shed. That's right, a 1952.
Also a 1948 8N.
caryc
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Thank you Selena. She seems to be the only one here who knows what I'm talking about. So, as 737tdi says, I'll get off my pulpit now with one last thought on the subject.
I would not want to work on the same crew as that guy on the Bobcat because you never know what a hot shot like that is going to do next. I just wouldn't feel safe around him.
I would not want to work on the same crew as that guy on the Bobcat because you never know what a hot shot like that is going to do next. I just wouldn't feel safe around him.
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caryc said:
While that is a large consideration, most jobs involving a skip loader are not crew dependent. However, repairing a sprung frame, pivot pins and various other chores created by people that "know what they are doing" would even cause Sister Beatrice to use intemperate language. I know from experience that replacing the rear pivot pins will make at least one preacher cuss. None of the people present blamed him a bit!
500jrh
Single-Sixer
I'll give you this one Selena, I wrote this late last night after work and should have thought it through more. It should say wear your seatbelt and safety glasses and you'll be fine in most cases. Freak accidents can and do happen, yes, more frequently when people get outside of their capabilities. As for pushing timber with a dozer, very common practice here. It's done at the mines with D11s. Driving like an idiot on a public gravel road? Not sure how that equates. A pickup stuck in a swamp that's still in there? Sounds like someone with less than average mental capacity had an extra truck they didn't need. I'm all done here, liked the video, now I'll be quoted as "someone who knows what their doing" but is really an irresponsible danger to society for a while by someone with obviously way more life experience (at 28) than the rest of the members here. Too funny.
protoolman
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I've been driving bobcats since 83 when my boss bought one of the first ones Id seen. Pretty amazing what they will do. I try not to tip my current one on purpose but what he's doing in the video isn't terribly dangerous if you're as familiar with bobcats as I am. As stated when you are strapped in they are pretty safe. Who hasn't had a little fun with the equipment at one time or another? No one here ever try to jump their bicycle over a ditch or anything?
radicalrod
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Well my first time using my CASE 1150E Dozer was "eye opening" :lol: :lol: :lol:
I got in and figured out the controls and them headed full steam towards an old tree stump....
Well I hit that old rotted stump and I was immediately face planted into the windshield :roll: :roll: :roll:
I didn't wash my greasy face print off as to always remind me of said experience :!: :!: :!:
The next thing they should tell you is go SLOW over a dirt pile...the dozer will keep going strait up till it reaches the balance point and then acts like a "catapult".....another "face plant" lesson :wink: :wink: :wink:
When I get brave I might tell you guys my JD 762 scrapper lessons :shock: :shock: :shock: RR
I got in and figured out the controls and them headed full steam towards an old tree stump....
Well I hit that old rotted stump and I was immediately face planted into the windshield :roll: :roll: :roll:
I didn't wash my greasy face print off as to always remind me of said experience :!: :!: :!:
The next thing they should tell you is go SLOW over a dirt pile...the dozer will keep going strait up till it reaches the balance point and then acts like a "catapult".....another "face plant" lesson :wink: :wink: :wink:
When I get brave I might tell you guys my JD 762 scrapper lessons :shock: :shock: :shock: RR
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