The new CEO

[Ruger45]

So will we see more of the same cheap plastic guns or will the new guy try and move the company in a new direction?

 

[caryc]

So will we see more of the same cheap plastic guns or will the new guy try and move the company in a new direction?

I guess you're assuming that we all know what you are talking about. I for one, do not. Mind filling me in?

 

[RoninPA]

Ruger Announces Promotion of Christopher J. Killoy as President and Chief Executive Officer
Ruger today announced the promotion of Christopher J. Killoy to serve as its Chief Executive Officer, effective May 9, 2017. The Company previously announced Mr. Killoy's promotion on August 2, 2016. Christopher Killoy is the fourth Chief Executive Officer in the Company's 68-year history, succeeding William B. Ruger (1949 - 2000), William B. Ruger, Jr. (2000 - 2006), and Michael O. Fifer (2006 - 2017).

 

[GunnyGene]

Any CEO's primary responsibility is to the bottom line. He'll do whatever it takes to ensure and improve the company's profitability and shareholder value. If that means more plastic guns that's what he'll do.

 

[caryc]

Any CEO's primary responsibility is to the bottom line. He'll do whatever it takes to ensure and improve the company's profitability and shareholder value. If that means more plastic guns that's what he'll do.

^^^^^^^
Exactly. I seriously doubt that he see's Ruger's single action line with the same romance that we do.

 

[Joe Reilly]

In some (un)related news, Ruger's stock price jumped about $7 today.

 

[WAYNO]

Yep, cheap plastic firearms are the red hot seller. No reason to change what works for them.

WAYNO.

 

[contender]

Actually, Mr. Killoy is an open minded guy & very nice. He's been at Ruger for a while & I know he sees a lot of good stuff.
May I suggest we ALL give him a chance in his new position before we do any form of judging.

 

[ditto1958]

Under Mike Fifer's guidance, Ruger prospered by making and selling guns that sold. Those were often not always the guns those of us at forums such as this one would have liked to have seen them make. If it were up to me, Ruger would still be making P95's, Red Label shotguns, walnut stocked 77/22's... but I'm not typical. Most of us aren't.

The new CEO will very likely continue to do what worked before. As stated, his job is to make money for the shareholders.

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

Yep, cheap plastic firearms are the red hot seller. No reason to change what works for them.

WAYNO.

That's exactly what he'll do. And he'll like it. The goal is to sell 2.5 million guns this year. One company, 2.5 million guns. that is historical. Not to mention profitable.

 

[mexicanjoe]

How bout a 12gauge pump shotgun, bring back the P 90/97-
P95& a small frame 22 mag revolver fixed nite sites,, I can dream can't i?

 

[PriseDeFer]

Rugged and reliable can live in plastic. All the virtues that have been Ruger can continue to be designed into and built into new guns. The company just has to keep on wanting to do it. I hope they do and I hope they don't lose that particular quirkiness that Ruger grew up with.

 

[WAYNO]

How bout a 12gauge pump shotgun, bring back the P 90/97-
P95& a small frame 22 mag revolver fixed nite sites,, I can dream can't i?

And that's the dilemma of marketing. Some folks loved the P-Series, but I never did. I also have little affinity for plastic striker fired guns, but other folks love them. They will make whatever sells and keeps them in business.

Where Ruger's marketing is greatest, is although black and polymer is the hottest seller, they're still able to make room in their factory to produce revolvers, 1911's, and bolt-guns for Grampas like me.

WAYNO.

 

[Boxhead]

Share holder return is all that matters. It seems some folks even brag on Ruger's stock value growth with major plastic involved. It ain't rocket science. That is why they are in business.

 

[RSIno1]

In some (un)related news, Ruger's stock price jumped about $7 today.

So this means stockholders see the new promotion as being able to increase their bottom line. That equates to cheaper manufacturing and a higher price point. I'd be happy if he just rehired the quality control department.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Any CEO's primary responsibility is to the bottom line. He'll do whatever it takes to ensure and improve the company's profitability and shareholder value. If that means more plastic guns that's what he'll do.

That is exactly what is wrong with America today in the corporate and financial world, GREED.

All the great companies have been responsible to society, their employees, to their customers and not primarily towards making a profit for their investors. People should invest in a company because they like the way the company runs not just to make a buck. If money was all that mattered then all companies would look like those pharmaceutical companies that raise prices 1000 percent because they control the market or the ones that deal in questionably legal products like porn and cigarettes. Corporate raiders look at companies to make money. Investors should look at the big picture and support companies that help America be a better place. Of course my vision might be clouded by the fact that I am a retired union employee with a pension.

I hope the new President and CEO of Ruger has a broad vision for the company, it's employees and the company's customers.

 

[contender]

I know many feel that all they care about at Ruger is the stockholders. But,,, remember this; Bill Ruger had a picture in his office showing barrels full of money!!!!!! Bill didn't care much for collectors of his firearms,,, but was a collector of other stuff as well.
Many lament the idea of "black & plastic" in firearms,,, BUT,,,,,,,, that IS what's selling, and ALL companies survive ONLY if they give the major customers what they want.
So when you decide to complain about the black & plastic stuff,,, let's NOT forget the following;
.327 Single-Seven
.44 Special SA revolvers, in different models
The return of the mid-frame SA revolvers
The return of the Flattop models
.480 Bisley SA and the 454 Bisley SA
.45 convertible Bisley's in stainless
GP-100 Wiley Capp, Match Champion & Talo edition
Bearcat Shopkeeper
SR-1911

And I'm SURE I'm missing a few guns that are not in the black & plastic listing.

But also,,, look at some of the highly successful black & plastic guns.
The LCP
The LCR
The SR9, SR40
SR-22

Many of these guns got bought by non-Ruger owners, OR by first time gun owners. More Ruger buyers & gun owners is a GOOD thing.
By building & selling things the average guy wants,,, it allows them to continue to build many goodies for those of us who like "different" guns.
How long do you think Ruger would be able to be in business, and/or stay on top if all they did was blue steel, wood, SA handguns?

So, as you worry & complain about your personal issues or desires,,, please step back & look,,, truly look at the company at large & what they really do. And, as such, give Mr. Killoy a chance to guide Ruger to continue to be the number 1 firearm company in America!

 

[Bull Barrel]

Making a company profitable is greed?
I guess you dont want to be paid more or want your 401k to nring a higher return.

It is a CEOs job to ensure the company makes as much as possible.

 

[caryc]

Making a company profitable is greed?
I guess you dont want to be paid more or want your 401k to nring a higher return.

It is a CEOs job to ensure the company makes as much as possible.

I guess Jimbo thinks it would be better if Ruger was a non profit business. :mrgreen:

As for the "black" and "plastic", take the number of "blue steel" guys here and compare that with the number of Ruger's actual customers and see who wins out. Sure we love our revolvers but we're not actually as big a group as we seem to think we are.

 

[ChiefMuzz]

Making a company profitable is greed?
I guess you dont want to be paid more or want your 401k to nring a higher return.

It is a CEOs job to ensure the company makes as much as possible.

I guess Jimbo thinks it would be better if Ruger was a non profit business. :mrgreen:

As for the "black" and "plastic", take the number of "blue steel" guys here and compare that with the number of Ruger's actual customers and see who wins out. Sure we love our revolvers but we're not actually as big a group as we seem to think we are.

And to add to that Cary, if the black plastic is what they have to sell in order to continue the profit margins they are running to be able to offer all the other niche stuff that we love, then I'm all for it.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

And to add to that Cary, if the black plastic is what they have to sell in order to continue the profit margins they are running to be able to offer all the other niche stuff that we love, then I'm all for it.

...and that is what I meant by being responsible to their customers.

 

[32magfan]

I may get the chance to find out in person tomorrow. Larry's Pistol & Pawn in Huntsville, AL is having Ruger Days tomorrow and Saturday. I plan to go and hopefully get to chat with Mr. Killoy for a few moments.

I would like to see Ruger build a few different things but they have to build the stuff that the public wants. One thing that worries me is that some folks dismiss Blue Steel and Wood without ever giving it a try or a chance, dismissing it out of hand. I am grateful that I was exposed to the old stuff by fellow shooters and my father. I think there is room for both at Ruger and in most folk's safes as well. :wink:

My .02,

32Magfan

 

[caryc]

I may get the chance to find out in person tomorrow. Larry's Pistol & Pawn in Huntsville, AL is having Ruger Days tomorrow and Saturday. I plan to go and hopefully get to chat with Mr. Killoy for a few moments.

I would like to see Ruger build a few different things but they have to build the stuff that the public wants. One thing that worries me is that some folks dismiss Blue Steel and Wood without ever giving it a try or a chance, dismissing it out of hand. I am grateful that I was exposed to the old stuff by fellow shooters and my father. I think there is room for both at Ruger and in most folk's safes as well. :wink:

My .02,

32Magfan

I can't quite believe that. I can set one of my Blackhawks and my Beretta 92FS side by side and the one I want to pick up is the Blackhawk. The Beretta is just a self defense gun and I have no desire to pick it up and fondle it as I do with the Blackhawk.

It's the same thing as with the cars from the 50's and 60's. I get no joy out of looking at a new car today. They all look the same. I couldn't tell a Chevy from a Ford today. Those semi autos just have no personality at all. It's just a mechanical thing that spits out bullets. Maybe that's why I own just one semi auto pistol.

 

[GunnyGene]

I may get the chance to find out in person tomorrow. Larry's Pistol & Pawn in Huntsville, AL is having Ruger Days tomorrow and Saturday. I plan to go and hopefully get to chat with Mr. Killoy for a few moments.

I would like to see Ruger build a few different things but they have to build the stuff that the public wants. One thing that worries me is that some folks dismiss Blue Steel and Wood without ever giving it a try or a chance, dismissing it out of hand. I am grateful that I was exposed to the old stuff by fellow shooters and my father. I think there is room for both at Ruger and in most folk's safes as well. :wink:

My .02,

32Magfan

I can't quite believe that. I can set one of my Blackhawks and my Beretta 92FS side by side and the one I want to pick up is the Blackhawk. The Beretta is just a self defense gun and I have no desire to pick it up and fondle it as I do with the Blackhawk.

It's the same thing as with the cars from the 50's and 60's. I get no joy out of looking at a new car today. They all look the same. I couldn't tell a Chevy from a Ford today. Those semi autos just have no personality at all. It's just a mechanical thing that spits out bullets. Maybe that's why I own just one semi auto pistol.

Likewise on all counts. :mrgreen:

 

[RPM Enterprises]

How about giving past subscription serial number holders program back to us. And make it possible to talk to someone about factory letters the way it was before Ruger decided to charge for them.

 

[Spleenless Dave]

So will we see more of the same cheap plastic guns or will the new guy try and move the company in a new direction?

Uh oh. This debuted on their site today.

:mrgreen:

 

[mistermills357]

I am thinking that they will go with more cheap plastic guns; they have taken the gun world by storm, for better or worse.

 

[mistermills357]

So will we see more of the same cheap plastic guns or will the new guy try and move the company in a new direction?

Uh oh. This debuted on their site today.

:mrgreen:

And it will retail for the low, low price of $399.

 

[Ruger45]

It will be interesting to see how it shakes out. I do feel they have taken a wrong turn with more all weather guns.
I mean really how many of us have bought more than one of the same gun because the wood was nice. That is not gonna happen with plastic. :wink:
But you are right what sells is plastic funny thing is I don't have a single one of there plastic pistols. Don't like how they feel or shoot so I spend my pistol money at other company stores. :wink: :wink:
I haven't moved off of Ruger revolvers but all I buy of them is used so that's not gonna help the company bottom line. Same goes for long guns. Just can't bring myself to buy the new American rifle when for the same amount of a few dollars more you can get a used walnut and blued :wink: :wink:

 

[WAYNO]

Nobody is more critical than the folks on this forum. :wink:

If I were the CEO, I just might quit trying.

Glock...Nothing I want.

Winchester...Nothing I want.

Springfield...Nothing I want.

Marlin...No longer making the guns I want.

Remington...I still like the bolt action rifles and their 1911.



Ruger...I've recently bought, revolvers, semi-auto pistols, wood-stocked rifles, plastic stocked rifles, blued, stainless, rimfire, center-fire. Nobody covers ALL the bases better, but yet folks remain critical of them for their business model and lack of choices.


WAYNO.