wheelgun1958
Hunter
So as not to step on another guys thread, I'll start this one. On the topic of USAF air commands, it all starts at ATC in T37s. The little Cessna everyone loves to hate.
T37B
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Ruger Guru
No pictures?
(Unless my computer is just too slow to load one.)
(Unless my computer is just too slow to load one.)
Not sure what you are trying to start.
USAF Commands SAC, ADC, TAC, MATS, from the past and the type of planes??????
USAF now starts students in Diamonds then Texen IIs.
Navy starts them in Texan IIs
USAF Commands SAC, ADC, TAC, MATS, from the past and the type of planes??????
USAF now starts students in Diamonds then Texen IIs.
Navy starts them in Texan IIs
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Ruger Guru
I knew what a T37 was,, but I was figuring he may have posted a picture & my computer was too slow to load,, OR,, maybe,, just starting a topic on a different airplane.
I'm like you now Jim,, not sure what he was trying to start.
I'm like you now Jim,, not sure what he was trying to start.
That's what the Internet is for. You can gain a bunch of knowledge just a click away :) :) :)
By the way this is the Diamond that USAF Students start Initial Flight Training in. Which is a very good idea
Navy Texan II and Texan I "J Bird"
Fly Navy
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T-37 was phased out in 2009. I only ever knew one guy who trained in T-37, that was in mid-'60s. All the mil pilots I've known were older or younger.
And then of course there was the Pontiac T-37/GT-37 of 1970-71, sort of a poor man's GTO:
https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/muscle-cars-you-should-know-1970-71-pontiac-gt-37/
And then of course there was the Pontiac T-37/GT-37 of 1970-71, sort of a poor man's GTO:
https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/muscle-cars-you-should-know-1970-71-pontiac-gt-37/
I've been around, both in the military and as a civilian. I've seen lots of aircraft. We all knew of the Cessna trainer. I even built a model of it years ago. I've seen many T-33's and T-38's. But never have I seen a T-37 in person.
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wheelgun1958
Hunter
All the talk on another thread of SAC, TAC, MAC, I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring. Did my time working on them at Laughlin AFB during the Carter years.
2Late45
Single-Sixer
Saw 5>6 of them at Bien Hoa in Air Force camo, along with a few Marine A-4's. I guess we tried any and everything for ground support in 71/72. Of course we called them A-37s.
I think most flight schools in the country are flying the Diamond 20 series. My nieces son just got his private license and all he flew
was the 20. Just headed to collage in a pro pilot program at Indiana State (because Purdue had him on a wait list for their program.)
Started flying last week for the instrument program...DA20 again. I've never been in one, going tp rent one locally just to get
a clue how they fly, maybe be able to have an intelligent conversation with him about the plane.
Make sense from a cost standpoint for the Air Force to use them but the Navy way looks like way more fun.
Don Lovel
Hunter
My grandpa was the landing gear shop civilian crew chief at Vance AFB in Enid Oklahoma for many years. T33, T37 maintenance and he got transferred to Perrin AFB Sherman Texas to retool their shop for incoming T38s just before he retired.
Vance has a bunch of Textron prop planes we see doing acrobatics and chasing each other regularly and they do OSU ROTC flights here in Stillwater.
Vance has a bunch of Textron prop planes we see doing acrobatics and chasing each other regularly and they do OSU ROTC flights here in Stillwater.
Don Lovel
Hunter
I was sitting in lawnchairs slammin beers with a buddy who lives between Covington and Marshall Oklahoma SE of Vance AFB
We watch a couple of pilots dog fighting over us. Those little turboprops haul ass in a very agile P51 mustangesque plane
The T-6A is remarkably similar in size, weight, wing loading and horsepower to the P-51 Mustang.
Bob Wright
Hawkeye
What about the PT-19? Assume it is no longer used?
Bob Wright
Bob Wright
Son enjoyed flying the T-6A probably because he could just go fly it when he wanted. He chose the Texan II to take his last flight in when he retired from the Navy after 29 years of a fabulous carrier.
A friend Trey chose to fly with on his last flight.
Family together for the last flight.
A friend Trey chose to fly with on his last flight.
Family together for the last flight.
It's like these Airheads expect anyone to know what they are talking about.
I think it went away with the PT-23
Oh, it's still used, all right, just not for official US military training. There was one over my house the other day. ;)
Were those biplanes?
With a click of the mouse you can find out. :) :) :) :)
I've already worked hard enough trying to keep up with the conversation. It's like every post is more Google searches. Is google paying you guys per search,??? Does Social Security hold the earnings against you?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH But look how much you have learned Grasshopper :) :)
I've already reached the point where new information is overwriting previous information. I hope I didn't loose anything important.
It seems you did--the fact that the verb "lose" has only one "o." This seems to be a common loss, if that's any consolation. ;)
This Fairchild PT-19 belongs to a very dear friend of ours. He also did the restoration.
His Dad was lost in this tragic event.
Black Friday
On June 1st of 1945, 148 P-15 Mustangs departed Iwo Jima to escort B-29s on a mission to bomb Osaka Japan, 655 miles away. Hours into the flight, they ran into a massive weather front leading to one of the most tragic missions of the war. A total of 27 Mustangs and 24 pilots were lost to the weather. It was the largest loss of P-51 Mustangs on any mission in the European, China/Burma/India, or Pacific theater of operations during World War II. One of those pilots that was lost was Captain Lawrence "Larry" S. Smith, 462nd Fighter Squadron, 506th Fighter Group.
All reactions:
42Trey Hayden, Steve Cramp and 40 others
His Dad was lost in this tragic event.
Black Friday
On June 1st of 1945, 148 P-15 Mustangs departed Iwo Jima to escort B-29s on a mission to bomb Osaka Japan, 655 miles away. Hours into the flight, they ran into a massive weather front leading to one of the most tragic missions of the war. A total of 27 Mustangs and 24 pilots were lost to the weather. It was the largest loss of P-51 Mustangs on any mission in the European, China/Burma/India, or Pacific theater of operations during World War II. One of those pilots that was lost was Captain Lawrence "Larry" S. Smith, 462nd Fighter Squadron, 506th Fighter Group.
All reactions:
42Trey Hayden, Steve Cramp and 40 others
I dated this Chinese girl for a while, she'd say "I've given that back to my teacher" when her mind failed, which was
very seldom.
Armybrat
Hunter
I figgered it was about a trainer aircraft, but had no idea what the model was.
Saw some of those Cessnas flying around Randolph back in the day.
