blazinazn007
Bearcat
Hi everyone!
Just wondering if these two handguns will work fine with +p ammo?
Just wondering if these two handguns will work fine with +p ammo?
SR9c and SR40c - +P ammunition?
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According to the owner's manual, yes. I'm running 135 gr Critical Duty +P in my SR9C. You can read the owner's Instruction Manual here: https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/_manuals/srSeries.pdf
The SR-SERIES pistols are compatible with all factory ammunition of the
correct caliber loaded to U.S. Industry Standards, including high-velocity and
hollow-point loads, loaded in brass, aluminum, or steel cartridge cases. No 9mm
Parabellum or .40 S&W ammunition manufactured in accordance with NATO,
U.S., SAAMI, or CIP standards is known to be beyond the design limits or known
not to function in these pistols.
correct caliber loaded to U.S. Industry Standards, including high-velocity and
hollow-point loads, loaded in brass, aluminum, or steel cartridge cases. No 9mm
Parabellum or .40 S&W ammunition manufactured in accordance with NATO,
U.S., SAAMI, or CIP standards is known to be beyond the design limits or known
not to function in these pistols.
Iron Mike Golf
Blackhawk
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I understand that to mean 9mm +P yes, 40 S&W +P no.
22/45 Fan
Hunter
AFAIK, there is no SAAMI definition for "40+P" so no standard exists and anything labeled as such can be whatever the seller wants to make, including ridiculously unsafe. Remember, the .40S&W is a very high pressure round to begin with so there is no room for +P.Iron Mike Golf said:
Also, there is no SAAMI standard for 9 mm +P+ so, again, you have no idea what you are getting. However, a couple of big ammo makers do sell what they label as 9 mm+P+ so I expect they can be trusted but they limit the sales to LE and you won't find it at the local Cabelas.
RedlegM109A1
Single-Sixer
Frankly I have never seen or heard of S&W 40+P. It is already a very potent round so not sure why +P would even exist.
RedlegM109A1 said:
Agreed I don't claim to have seen them all but as far as my Gold Dots 180g / Critical Duty 175g neither of them are marked +P,
Its possible +P versions are out that there I just haven't seen. Corbon I think does make +p loaded variants I could almost swear I've seen them on the shelf but can't be sure.
RedlegM109A1
Single-Sixer
Trucker said:
You could not pay me to shoot this stuff.
22/45 Fan
Hunter
Point made but there were a lot of disclaimers in the Midway write up. Buffalo Bore is generally a reputable manufacturer but they tend to work on the leading edge of acceptable pressure. I wonder what the pressure of that round really is.Trucker said:
cjs1945
Single-Sixer
The 9 mm is an old round, introduced in 1902 and with pressure limited to 35,000 psi. The 9 mm +P loading was developed in the early 1990s with pressure up to 38,500 psi and is only recommended for use in modern firearms and will shorten the useful life of most compact pistols like the LC9. The 40 S&W is a new design introduced in 1990 and is already loaded to close to it's safe limits without a +P version. If a person feels the need for power or performance that is beyond the capability of the 9 mm +P, 40 S&W or 45 ACP they should consider the 10 mm Auto or 50 Action Express rather than pushing the firearm to it's absolute limits. There are too many things that can happen, like a bullet getting set back or seated too deeply that will cause pressure to soar way beyond limits, and things like that will probably get by with a normal load, but with an absolute maximum load it is a invitation for disaster.
woodman39
Bearcat
The Winchester Ranger T series 9mm +P+ 127gr is labeled as L.E. only but is available to the public. I bought 6 boxes of it about a year ago from sgammo.com22/45 Fan said:
There is no saami specs for +P+ but the manufacturers load it to 40,000-42,000 psi. as opposed to 38,000 for standard 9mm and 38,500 for +P.
