SR40c Trigger Fils To Reset

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richkat2338

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As a relatively new owner of the Ruger SR40c, and after 'break-in' (400 rounds +) I felt the trigger pull was somewhat 'heavy'. So I did a little research (via You tube) and found dozens of videos on the Ruger SR40 series; from field stripping, complete disassembly, yada, yada, yada. It all boiled down to replacing the Trigger Rest Bar...so I did. Installed a Ghost Trigger 3.5, a polished Stricker Shaft and Striker Blocker (from Galloway) and now the trigger fails to reset. Where did I go wrong?
 

revhigh

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richkat2338 said:
Where did I go wrong?



In a nutshell .... Probably not what you want to hear .... Sorry .... but You messed with a perfectly functional gun without knowing what you were doing, having no idea of the functional workings of the gun, or the ramifications of your modifications. This .... after Ruger spent millions of dollars doing research and development, and testing for functionality, reliability, and safety ... You've now un-done all that research and testing, and made reliability of the gun and legal liability huge issues.

If you leave it as is, or even get it working with those parts, you have no warranty ... Questionable reliability ... No ability to trust the gun for CCW ... And outrageous legal liability issues if you ever do have to use the gun in a self defense situation.

We're talking about a GUN ... not some device where there are no consequences for screwing something up with your mods.

Put it back to factory specs, and throw all that stuff away. Live with the gun as it came from the factory .... Or buy a better gun that meets your requirements out of the box instead.

Messing with the fire control system of a firearm, when your only knowledge of that firearm's functionality is YouTube videos .... is not the smartest thing in the world to do .... ESPECIALLY if you have ANY INTENTION of carrying said firearm for self defense.

Sorry for the rant .... But this kind of stuff is a real pet peeve. If you add up all the money you spent on the gun, and extra mods to make the gun acceptable ... You could have bought a better gun in the first place, whose trigger wasn't so bad, especially if you have to pay a gunsmith now to resolve the issue.

I STRONGLY recommend you read 'In the Gravest Extreme' by Massad Ayoob before you even remotely consider carrying that self-modified, completely untested, most likely unreliable firearm for self defense.

Hope you get it fixed ... Preferably by going back to the factory configuration.

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DenverGT

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Sorry, no help on how to solve your issue... I'd try going back to stock parts and see if it resolves the issue, at least as a test. Once back to stock, if it's not 100%, send it back to ruger to have them fix it up for you.

I haven't ever heard anyone call a SR9C or SR40c trigger bad.... the old gen SR9 trigger wasn't good, but the redesign they did when they introduced the SR9C really improved it. It's miles better than the other striker pistols (XDM, a few glocks, and an M&P) I've shot.
 

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Rev.....Nothing like jerking the old boy's drawers down all the way...

2338....Put that gun back the way it was and stop fooling around with it....
 

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JPGLSG said:
Rev.....Nothing like jerking the old boy's drawers down all the way...

2338....Put that gun back the way it was and stop fooling around with it....


He asked ... I answered .... Tell me one thing I said that wasn't he truth. When someone messes with the fire control system of a firearm ... It's no joking matter ... Same as reloading. It endangers everyone around them. We have no idea what he did/didn't do ... How it was performed ... What may have been bent or broken ... Or anything else of substance in the 'modification'.

Sorry, but pussyfooting around a subject like this is not the correct approach. That gun needs to be returned to stock, properly functioning form as the manufacturer intended it, or it needs to go to a gunsmith for proper installation of the parts. As gun owners ... We have to police ourselves, and maybe some of the things I mentioned hadn't been considered by the OP.

This is very serious stuff ... It's not like he modded a skateboard or something.


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revhigh

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DenverGT said:
Sorry, no help on how to solve your issue... I'd try going back to stock parts and see if it resolves the issue, at least as a test. Once back to stock, if it's not 100%, send it back to ruger to have them fix it up for you.

I haven't ever heard anyone call a SR9C or SR40c trigger bad.... the old gen SR9 trigger wasn't good, but the redesign they did when they introduced the SR9C really improved it. It's miles better than the other striker pistols (XDM, a few glocks, and an M&P) I've shot.


The OP himself said the trigger was 'somewhat heavy' ... I say It's also 'somewhat long' .... And also 'somewhat inconsistent in its release' .... And I'm being kind in my descriptions ... So much so that he probably went out and spent close to $100 or more trying to make it 'better'.

As to being 'miles better' than the other guns you mentioned ... I don't think so .....

Here's what Galloway says about the mod the OP did ....

Tactical trigger reset bars for SR9c/SR40c

these are NOT DROP in and require fitting by gunsmith.


What else does Galloway (and any other aftermarket company) say ?

*Altering any product, firearms, cars, even clothes comes with risks so understand and accept we assume no liablility for injury to the buyer or anyone residing with or operating with the buyer. The buyer is the sole responsible party for the use of their firearm with or without our parts.



You are truly on your own if anything happens when using parts like these .... Ruger won't stand with you, and neither will any aftermarket company .... Now .... Do you REALLY want to do this to a gun, especially a gun you may intend to carry ? I hope you have REALLY DEEP pockets, because if anything happens ... At the range ... Or for CCW .... You're alone in court if it comes to that.

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DenverGT

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revhigh said:
As to being 'better' than the other guns you mentioned ... I don't think so .....

Well, either me and a buddy got really lucky with our SR9Cs, or I got really unlucky on the other guns I tried out. Either way I'm happy.
 

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DenverGT said:
revhigh said:
As to being 'better' than the other guns you mentioned ... I don't think so .....

Well, either me and a buddy got really lucky with our SR9Cs, or I got really unlucky on the other guns I tried out. Either way I'm happy.


Good for you ... It's always nice to like your guns ... :D

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"He asked ... I answered .... Tell me one thing I said that wasn't he truth."

Straight talk is the best talk, it is indeed very serious stuff. It's good to have folks like you speaking up, it makes things safer for all.
 

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FYI ... There is a TON of information about the Ghost 3.5 trigger bar being unreliable as to resetting ... Particularly on Glocks.

Just do a search.

I sure wouldn't have one (of any brand) on any of my guns .... Even if it seemed to work flawlessly, especially if it was a carry gun.

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richkat2338 said:
Where did I go wrong?

You fixed something that wasn't broke. Many of us have done it. Some of us have admitted it here.

Revhigh is correct in my opinion. Put it back the way it came from Ruger.

Lesson learned. No biggie. Let us know please how it turns out.

Welcome to the forum.
 

JMiller

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This is just an observation, after several years of reading about triggers on carry/self defense firearms. The triggers on these pistols are heavy for a reason, it's about liability. These pistols are being made with the intention of being carried concealed, and for self protection at close quarters, not as target, or competition grade pistols. A good clean trigger is desired, but, for close encounters, not really necessary, there are exceptions, such as physical conditions, that is where practice comes in, getting used to that trigger pull, so that in the unfortunate event that it's necessary to use the handgun for defense, that heavy trigger will not be an issue, and a modified/lightened trigger can be a legal liability in places that are 2A unfriendly. I'm not trying to open a can of worms, this is just an opinion.
 

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I had a similar issue with my sr40c when it was new. The trigger wouldnt reset and id have to fiddle with it to get it to set back so i could take the next shot. Mine only did this with the 15 round mag, not the smaller magazine. I shot the same amount of round through both mags and the 15 round was missing all kinds of paint and the 9 round wasnt. I called ruger and they sent me a new 15 round mag and i have never had the problem since. Hope this is of some help to you.
 

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revhigh said:
Live with the gun as it came from the factory .... Or buy a better gun that meets your requirements out of the box instead.

I don't always agree with you, but this is spot on!

IMO, there is a great deal of difference in making cosmetic enhancements, or even some functional enhancements (like installing night sights...which some may consider functional and some cosmetic) but I don't like to do anything to the fire control group. If I buy a gun and it has a much heavier trigger than others report with the same, unmodified model, then I'll send it back to the maker for check and adjustment. For one thing, I'm not mechanically inclined, and for another, I don't want to void the warranty (and yes, I know that Ruger doesn't have a stated warranty) or make the gun unsafe or induce malfunctions.

I usually research a gun as much as possible before I buy it...I've learned over the years that impulse buys in guns rarely work out for me (on occasion, I've lost out on a real deal by waiting to research the gun, but that's been very much the exception.) If I know going in that a gun has a certain trigger characteristic, for example, then I won't buy it or I'll live with it. YMMV.
 
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