SR1911 vs Kimber .45

[peterw]

Hi,
Now it is time to ask for opinions.

Anybody that wants to compare SR1911 & a Kimber .45?
Please disregard the prices of the guns.

/Peter

 

[bsnake]

I've had a SR1911 for about 1.5 years. I also have 2 Kimber Custom II's, 1 stainless - 1 blue. 1000's of rounds thru them all.
In my opinion, the Ruger & Kimber Custom II's are very comparable in fit and function.

 

[peterw]

And if I want to go for serious bullseye shooting?
Want would you go for?

 

[bsnake]

And if I want to go for serious bullseye shooting?
Want would you go for?

I would use my Colt Gold Cup National Match.

 

[Skalkaho Slim]

Sold my Kimbers (even the '96 Classic Custom).

Kept the Ruger. Proved more reliable and more accurate.

 

[peterw]

Thanks for your opinions
My friend think that I should by a Kimber, but I sort of have a thing for Ruger.

First gun - Ruger Mark II .22
Second gun - Morini CM22M .22
Third gun - Ruger SR9 (Probably the first in Sweden)
Fourth gun - Ruger SR1911? Probably as I feel now 8)

 

[revhigh]

Anybody that wants to compare SR1911 & a Kimber .45?

Please disregard the prices of the guns.

How can you 'disregard price' in your inquiry ?

The SR1911 is an entry level 1911 ... Kimber makes all levels of 1911's, including some 'supposed' very high end guns.

I don't even like MIMbers, but for equivalent (priced) guns ... I'd pick the Ruger .... If you asked me between the SR1911 and any gun in the MIMber line-up .... there is no question that I would pick a higher end MIMber .... and then I'd sell it and buy a Springfield or a Colt.


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[revhigh]

And if I want to go for serious bullseye shooting?
Want would you go for?

I would use my Colt Gold Cup National Match.

Me too.


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[Pat-inCO]

Anybody that wants to compare SR1911 & a Kimber .45?

They are both 1911s.

 

[peterw]

Ohh, are they both 1911's? :shock:

Reason for not wanting it to be a price discussion, is one
And the other is that I can afford the Kimber (even high end ones), but I don't know if I want it.

And I kind of got a thing for Ruger.

 

[Skalkaho Slim]

I despise the Swartz firing pin safety the Kimber utilizes. I don't necessarily mind a firing pin safety, I just don't like the Swartz system. I like the Colt series 80 system better.

'Course it's a moot point with the Ruger. Don't need it, don't want it.

Kimber's base Custom II is worth its price. More expensive models - just window dressing.

Not a single one of my Kimbers (I've owned 14 over the years) did anything the Ruger couldn't do. In fact, the Ruger did things that a number of the Kimbers couldn't. Like run reliably with a plethora of different loadings without a silly break in period. Like not having so tight a chamber that it'll run with 230 LRN all day long.

Not a single one of my Kimbers was more accurate. In fact, the Ruger beat most of them in that area.

I'm not bashing Kimber, that's just my experience and opinion. They're fine guns. I'm just happier with the Ruger.

 

[Pat-inCO]

I despise the Swartz firing pin safety the Kimber utilizes. I don't necessarily mind a firing pin safety, I just don't like the Swartz system.

You left out one little detail . . . . . .
"on some models"
There are many Kimbers with no FPS.

 

[Phoenix too]

Peter! Are you Swedish?! In Sweden? Our daughter was there some years ago, for about three months, studying on a fellowship.

PS: I like my Ruger 1911, but I have no real experience with others.

 

[MAC702]

I carry a Kimber everyday. I bought it a couple years before Ruger announced the SR1911. If it had been available, I'd have bought it then, at half the price.

I have played with a Ruger recently. It has a superior trigger than the Kimber, thanks to the Series 70 design with the titanium firing pin versus the firing pin block on the Kimber II series.

 

[Tweety Bird]

My newest Kimber (Super Carry Pro) has no Schwartz pin FPS. My Custom II and my Tactical Pro do. My Gold Cup and my GSG 1911-22 both have the Series 80 FPS. My RIA has none of all that.

Frankly, I don't care whether they have the FPS or not; they all function perfectly for me every time I ask 'em to do so. The only change I've done to any of them was to remove the magazine disconnect from the GSG.

 

[bczrx]

I despise the Swartz firing pin safety the Kimber utilizes. I don't necessarily mind a firing pin safety, I just don't like the Swartz system. I like the Colt series 80 system better.

I am not trying to start any conflicts, but why do you despise the Swartz but like the series 80 system better?

I have 1911s with and without the Swartz, but I have no series 80 experience for comparisons of the two FPS systems.

Again, I am genuinely curious. I am not trying to troll or sucker anyone into an arguement.

 

[Skalkaho Slim]

The Swartz depends on the grip safety rather than the trigger to disengage the FPS. Timing within the components has to be just right or severe peening of the firing pin can occur.

Also, if one does not have the perfect grip whilst drawing in a stressful situation and does not engage the GS enough to depress the FPS plunger, but enough to drop the hammer, all one gets is a resounding "click" rather than a bang.

Some folks don't like the Series 80 style as they feel it interferes with a light trigger pull. I've never really been able to tell the difference. 'Course I don't like sub-4# trigger pulls.

 

[dakota1911]

I think a more interesting comparison might be one of the new Colt 70 Series which will hurt one to about $1K or more and an SR1911. I have owned a bunch of Kimbers and still own a couple. They are just way overpriced for what you get. Years ago I bought a Grand Raptor. Nice looking pisol although the ouch was about $1.1K. Pretty, but never that accurate. A couple weeks ago I bought one of the new Colt GCNMs with the round top. Again $1.1K, but the Colt is fantastic. Yes it is also a range gun and not as pretty as the Kimber, but puts the lead where you want it if you are good.

 

[montegomx70]

And if I want to go for serious bullseye shooting?
Want would you go for?

I would use my Colt Gold Cup National Match.

Me too.


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me too,to

 

[montegomx70]

Anybody that wants to compare SR1911 & a Kimber .45?

Please disregard the prices of the guns.

How can you 'disregard price' in your inquiry ?

The SR1911 is an entry level 1911 ... Kimber makes all levels of 1911's, including some 'supposed' very high end guns.

I don't even like MIMbers, but for equivalent (priced) guns ... I'd pick the Ruger .... If you asked me between the SR1911 and any gun in the MIMber line-up .... there is no question that I would pick a higher end MIMber .... and then I'd sell it and buy a Springfield or a Colt.


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MIMBERS........that always makes me laugh, :lol: :lol:

 

[mohavesam]

Kimber is a high-quality outfit and their guns are (finally) very high quality. But Ruger has caught up in the quality department very quickly.

I like my SR1911s alot. Moreso than my single Kimber and much more than a few others. But then the R1 Stainless...

 

[GKC]

I'll state at the outset that I don't care for Kimber pistols (I've owned three, and have none now.) If you want a gun that is pretty to look at, Kimber is your pistol. If you want a solid shooter made by a company who stands behind it's products, go with the SR1911.

I don't mean to say that the SR1911 isn't a good looking gun in it's own right...it is, and surprisingly better looking than many Ruger pistols, especially the lack of the owner's manual warning prominently rollmarked on the slide. I especially like the fact that the SR1911 has no FPS, no FCS, and comes already set up just the way I want my 1911s to be set up. When you add in acceptably accurate and reliable, what more can you want? (I don't shoot competition...I'm talking about an all-around self-defense and general fun-at-the-range gun.)

I've owned many pistols, and I've come to the point that I won't buy from a company that doesn't think enough of its guns to provide a lifetime warranty and good customer service. Kimber has a one year warranty...and they give you one bottom of the barrel, poorly made magazine when you buy a $1,200 + pistol. S&W, Colt, SIG, RIA, and Springfield offer a lifetime warranty. Ruger doesn't have a stated warranty, but is well-known for taking care of its gun owners for the life of the gun. You would be far better off with any of these choices, even RIA, than with a Kimber, IMO.

 

[dakota1911]

I have several Kimbers up to the Grand Raptor. Now have a couple SR 1911s. Recently bought one of the new Colt GCNMs with the round top. See buying more Ruger, more Colt, but no more Kimber.

 

[stmry]

I like my Ruger 1911, But my Kimber Eclipse has never failed me and is oh so accurate.
I think some people pick on kimber because they don't want to pay for them. Just an opinion. I really don't care one way or the other.
I enjoy firearms made from many different manufacturers.

 

[revhigh]

I think some people pick on kimber because they don't want to pay for them.

Not in my opinion .... first of all ... kimber had a REALLY bad period when they first went to all the MIM parts where they had all kinds of breakages ... slide stops ... safeties .... even hammers. Thus the nickname MIMber. They may have gotten better at MIM since then, but to be honest ... for the price ... these guns shouldn't have ANY MIM parts .... they should ALL be forged (or cast) and machined. I usually make the comparison to Monster Cable audio and video products .... they're 70% hype and 30% performance.

I've personally shot dozens of kimber 1911's and have NEVER found ONE that would compete with my Colts. Who knows ... maybe I'm not shooting the right models ....

People say the same thing about Colts (not wanting to pay for them), but the bottom line is this ... if someone offered you a Colt .... a Ruger .... or a Kimber 1911 for the same price for equivalent guns .... which would you take ??

Most knowledgeable 1911 people would pick the Colt every single time. That says a lot about whether Colts are overpriced.

Glad your Kimber is a good shooter ... I'm sure there's good ones out there, I've just never seen any that warranted the money that was being asked. I'd take the equivalent Springfield over a Kimber ANYDAY ... at $300-$500 less.


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[montegomx70]

people say the same thing about Colts (not wanting to pay for them), but the bottom line is this ... if someone offered you a Colt .... a Ruger .... or a Kimber 1911 for the same price for equivalent guns .... which would you take ??

Most knowledgeable 1911 people would pick the Colt every single time. That says a lot about whether Colts are overpriced.


colts are not overpriced ,same as s+w and springfield american made models,nobody cries about
them being overpriced.

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[dakota1911]

Yup. I have a few Kimbers up to the Grand Raptor. Love the Ruger SR1911. Carry a Colt Commander.

 

[Tweety Bird]

I carry a Kimber everyday. I bought it a couple years before Ruger announced the SR1911. If it had been available, I'd have bought it then, at half the price.

I have played with a Ruger recently. It has a superior trigger than the Kimber, thanks to the Series 70 design with the titanium firing pin versus the firing pin block on the Kimber II series.

Hard for me to see how the Kimber (Schwartz) FP safety changes the feel of the trigger, since it's activated by the grip safety, not the trigger.

 

[dakota1911]

I have had several Kimbers and still have a couple. I think they are way overpriced for what you get. They need to pay for those full page color adds in every gun mag on the planet somehow you know.