I have a single six I believe is a lightweight serial #50598 any info would be appreciated. The research I have done is not very helpful. Thanks in advance
Single six info needed
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WIL TERRY
Buckeye
I think we need a bit more information than that.
PRECISELY what is it you are looking for...?
And so it goes...
PRECISELY what is it you are looking for...?
And so it goes...
OP
It has a 6 1/2" barrel and its a flat gate, but does it fall in the lightweight category? Oh and of course its blued.
circlergrugers
Vaquero
Lightweight serial number range is 200000-212500 approximately, I believe you posted in the lightweight serial numbers above, take a look at page 1
According to RENE that is the lowest number Type 4 flatgate. It should have a large concave ejector rod button and a flat loading gate.
street
Hunter
You need to check the barrel length. Flatgates don't have a 6 1/2 in. bl. Not shipped that way from the factory.
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OP
Thank you Sir
OP
Thanks Street it is a 5 1/2
Check main frame with a magnet. All lightweights have aluminum main frames.
Also, lightweights have 4-5/8" barrels.
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Also, lightweights have 4-5/8" barrels.
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street
Hunter
Also Lightweights serial number start at 200,000 as circlergrugers posted.Ale-8(1) said:
You have the lowest serial numbered Type 4 flatgate. In other words it is the FIRST Type 4 of the about 11,000 produced. It is a RSS5
Type 3s run from 18666 thru 51494 and have the "flat" serrated ejector rod button.
Type 4s run from 49052 thru 61960 and have the round, concave-faced ejector rod button.
That number is from 1956.
Flat gate and 5-1/2" barrel are correct.
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Type 4s run from 49052 thru 61960 and have the round, concave-faced ejector rod button.
That number is from 1956.
Flat gate and 5-1/2" barrel are correct.
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Look at the bottom of page 48 of the RENE Pocket Version .It states, and I quote: "....Known s/n range 50598 to 61960. " That is referring to Type 4 flatgate (RS5)Ale-8(1) said:
Look at page 27 of the full RENE Reference. It states, and I quote:
"Type 4 Flatgate (4-5/8" and 5-1/2") has large round (with concave face) ejector rod button and flat loading gate. Known S/N range 49052 to 61960. Approximately 11,000 produced."
It also lists 51494 as the last known Type 3.
There is, of course, always some overlap.
The difference is likely in the date each of these references was compiled and printed.
"Type 4 Flatgate (4-5/8" and 5-1/2") has large round (with concave face) ejector rod button and flat loading gate. Known S/N range 49052 to 61960. Approximately 11,000 produced."
It also lists 51494 as the last known Type 3.
There is, of course, always some overlap.
The difference is likely in the date each of these references was compiled and printed.
2007 on my copyAle-8(1) said:Look at page 27 of the full RENE Reference. It states, and I quote:
"Type 4 Flatgate (4-5/8" and 5-1/2") has large round (with concave face) ejector rod button and flat loading gate. Known S/N range 49052 to 61960. Approximately 11,000 produced."
It also lists 51494 as the last known Type 3.
There is, of course, always some overlap.
The difference is likely in the date each of these references was compiled and printed.
street
Hunter
Fox Mike the Single-Sixes Catalog number was RSS till they added all of the other barrels in 1959 when they named them RSS4, RSS5, RSSM, and RSS9.Fox Mike said:
There were a few Single-Sixes with the flat loading gate with the 4 5/8 in. bl. They were not cataloged and so far no one knows what the catalog number is. I would think it would still be RSS, as there must have been a mistake putting those barrels on the Single-Six. I bet a new employee thought he was making All Blue Lightweights and put the barrels on by mistake. Ruger then probably sold them at a discount to a jobber so as not to have to destroy them. Any way we will probably never know.
Fox Mike said:2007 on my copyAle-8(1) said:Look at page 27 of the full RENE Reference. It states, and I quote:
"Type 4 Flatgate (4-5/8" and 5-1/2") has large round (with concave face) ejector rod button and flat loading gate. Known S/N range 49052 to 61960. Approximately 11,000 produced."
It also lists 51494 as the last known Type 3.
There is, of course, always some overlap.
The difference is likely in the date each of these references was compiled and printed.
2010 on my copy.
It appears that the defining difference between the Type 3s and the Type 4s is the ejector rod button. In the number range right at the transition between the two types, it can go either way. This is a prime example of what our late friend Bob Campbell would mention as the possibility of "screwdriver variations" because that's all it takes to create one from the other, and this difference is not documentable from company records.
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....and gets back into the "parts bin" theory as to what part was put one at any given time to ship the gun out, there HAD to be overruns, or get to the bottom of the 'bin' only to find an "older style" part, as when the new ones came in, they dumped them on top of the pile...so it goes, nature of the beast of manufacturing and people building things for other people....and the shipping department had NO clue as to just WHAT parts were on any given gun...... 8) :roll: :wink:
....and when we got them in the shop, WE changed parts to make the customer 'happy' :wink:
replaced many a flatgate back in the early 70's 8) as well as the grips......... :roll:
those old plastic ( hard rubber) were slippery, and chipped all too easy,especially on the 357 flatops.
....and when we got them in the shop, WE changed parts to make the customer 'happy' :wink:
replaced many a flatgate back in the early 70's 8) as well as the grips......... :roll:
those old plastic ( hard rubber) were slippery, and chipped all too easy,especially on the 357 flatops.
No argument on my end. I was just copying what information I had in front of me from a source I believe; RENE.
Same here, Frank.
"All I know is what I read." I trust RENE, but the data can change as more and more serial numbers are reported to Chet15. And as we all know, with Ruger, never say never (or always).
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"All I know is what I read." I trust RENE, but the data can change as more and more serial numbers are reported to Chet15. And as we all know, with Ruger, never say never (or always).
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OP
Thanks for all of the great info and great conversation about Rugers so many of you have tons of knowledge it's much appreciated. That being said my flat gate is not the earliest produced type 4?
According to the latest RENE data published, 49052 is the earliest KNOWN Type 4.
OP
Thank you Ale-8(1) and everybody else for more education in collecting or accumulating Rugers. LOL
Welcome to our affliction.
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