single actions

[papa shooter]

Did Ruger ever make the Vaquero without a transfer bar safety?


Thanks
Tim

 

[rangerbob]

I'm pretty sure the answer to that is NO! Bob!! :wink:

 

[Ale-8(1)]

The answer is, indeed, "NO".

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[papa shooter]

I thought so. Thanks everyone.

 

[Hondo44]

That's why there are no 'New Model' Vaqueros, there were none made w/o the transfer bar. Both versions, the Vaquero and the New Vaquero have the NEW Model Transfer bar action.

The New Vaquero is "New" because it has the Reverse Indexing Pawl System to align cylinder chambers for easy loading/unloading since the hammer can't be half cocked to align chambers.

#1. No, RUGER didn't make a Vaquero w/o transfer bar, but you can very simply eliminate it. EITHER VAQUERO WILL WORK FINE with TRANSFER BAR REMOVED and adding a 1/2 cock hammer with fitted trigger or w/o (instruction is included to make simple modification to your trigger), SS or black. Otherwise you'd have to grind the bump off of the hammer face. You'd also have to hold the hammer back slightly to load/unload or else the firing pin will catch on the case heads, (risky business at best).

This standard style hammer is made just for that reason: http://powercustom.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=1119

Or this wide checkered spur Montado style hammer will also work (simply grind off upper bump on hammer face); http://powercustom.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=1125


#2. MY SHORTCUT FOR REMOVING JUST HAMMER and/or PAWL in New Models:

Recognize, when JUST NEEDING to remove the hammer and/or pawl, you do not need to hassle with the PESKY LOADING GATE SPRING, pull the trigger pin, OR trigger/transfer bar. Once you remove the grip frame, the hammer pin is the only other part you need to remove. After that, just pull the hammer back and all the way down, then depress the hammer plunger in the base of the hammer with a small tipped screwdriver to clear the trigger extension where the transfer bar connects to it. Let the hammer & pawl fall out. Reinstall the hammer and pawl back in the same way they came out. Push the plunger in by pushing it against the trigger extension just like you did with the tip of the small screwdriver, and the hammer will slip by the trigger extension. Piece o’ cake.

 

[REP1954]

http://powercustom.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=1119

 

[Ale-8(1)]

That's why there are no 'New Model' Vaqueros, there were none made w/o the transfer bar. Both versions, the Vaquero and the New Vaquero have the NEW Model Transfer bar action

Actually, there are no "Old Model" Vaqueros . . . for the reason you explain.

The terms "Old Model" and "New Model" do not appear roll-marked on the guns . . . they are terms created by and for the Rugerphiles and collectors to easily distinguish between the two action styles. Ruger created a little confusion by labeling the "second generation" guns "New Vaquero" in their roll-marking, and then further clouded the picture by returning to the original "Vaquero" roll-marking on the "third generation" models.

Confirming . . .

In Rugerland, "Old Model" refers to those single-actions made before 1973 w/o the transfer bar action, while "New Model" refers to the post-1973 guns made with the transfer bar action, whether Bearcat, Single-Six, Blackhawk, or Super Blackhawk.

And since all Vaqueros are, by definition, New Models, the term "New Model Vaquero" is redundant.

Always good for a discussion.

:wink:

 

[Hondo44]

You got it.

Almost....

All original Vaqueros are stamped Ruger Vaquero.

All New Vaqueros are stamped Ruger New Vaquero except the 44 Special because there were no old original series Vaqueros chambered in 44 Special so it's just an original Vaquero and stamped
just Ruger Vaquero.

The last newly introduced Vaquero is the 44 Mag and it too is stamped Ruger New Vaquero.

Here's one of those 44 Mags; so what's up with this?

 

[REP1954]

To bad someone had to come along with their amerture photo work.

 

[Rclark]

Well, the above picture looks like a .44 Special to me :) . Not .44 Mag ;) . Anyway all revolvers since around '73 are New Models ... the original Vaquero and New Vaquero included. Makes it quite simple when talking about New Model vs. Old Model revolvers. Then along comes the Vaqueros and New Vaqueros to confuse the issue ... somewhat.

The answer to leading question is ... No.

 

[GLASSMAN]

To bad someone had to come along with their amerture photo work.

Really?
Too bad we're not all professional photographers, I guess. :roll:
Your post is in poor taste.
Thank God this Forum has spell check or I'm sure I would cringe in your wrath.
Actually, I don't think I would. I just noticed you do not USE the spell check, do you?

 

[Hondo44]

Well, the above picture looks like a .44 Special to me :) . Not .44 Mag ;) . Anyway all revolvers since around '73 are New Models ... the original Vaquero and New Vaquero included. Makes it quite simple when talking about New Model vs. Old Model revolvers. Then along comes the Vaqueros and New Vaqueros to confuse the issue ... somewhat.

The answer to leading question is ... No.

The owner posted that it's actually one of the New Vaquero 44 Mags, the first large frame New Vaqueros, but miss-stamped 44 Special. It's one of only 16 that's been reported. Full story here:
http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=251731&p=2527645#p2527645

 

[Rclark]

Ahhh. More confusion .... I may be a bit dense, but I just don't understand how such an 'error' could get by the QA people.... Seems like there would be several people to handle the gun. Someone had to put it together, someone proof tested it (with just .44 Special loads?), then someone had to box it, and the label on the box would have said '44 Magnum' while checking serial # against the box label.... Go figure and at least 16 to boot.