Rugerhunter
Bearcat
convertible ??
seems like a fun little gun
I would LOVE to buy one but only if convertible. Plop.
seems like a fun little gun
I would LOVE to buy one but only if convertible. Plop.
Single 10 // Single 9 ----- Why didn't they make them
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JWhitmore44
Blackhawk
I'd almost bet that you'll see a convertible by the end of the year or the first of next year. That's assuming that both cylinders will work in the same gun without having to change the indexing pawl.
VAdoublegunner
Single-Sixer
Yeah, this seems a little backwards as a marketing strategy, but the Single 9 was probably the way to go first. I suspect the Single Ten will become the less common one.
If Ruger is able to assert that the bore diameter is different on the Single Ten and it accounts for enhanced accuracy because of it, there may be some justification. Based on the examples I've seen, I haven't been that impressed with their accuracy over a standard Single Six, so I don't think that is the case.
If anyone has examples of one or the other, or both, it would be great if they slugged the bores to confirm once and for all if there is a difference between them and the Single Six. I don't believe there is. If there is, then you think Ruger would be promoting it in their advertising.
If Ruger is able to assert that the bore diameter is different on the Single Ten and it accounts for enhanced accuracy because of it, there may be some justification. Based on the examples I've seen, I haven't been that impressed with their accuracy over a standard Single Six, so I don't think that is the case.
If anyone has examples of one or the other, or both, it would be great if they slugged the bores to confirm once and for all if there is a difference between them and the Single Six. I don't believe there is. If there is, then you think Ruger would be promoting it in their advertising.
CraigC
Hawkeye
It's funny how most folks report that they always use one cylinder or another. Very few actually use both. Yet when Ruger offers one as a non-convertible, everybody is up in arms. I don't get it.
I find it's best to dedicate one sixgun to each cartridge. That way you don't have to adjust your sights every time you swap cylinders. So if I wanted a .22LR, I'd buy the Single Ten. If I wanted the .22Mag, I'd buy the Single Nine. Not really a big deal.
You can never please everybody. :roll:
I find it's best to dedicate one sixgun to each cartridge. That way you don't have to adjust your sights every time you swap cylinders. So if I wanted a .22LR, I'd buy the Single Ten. If I wanted the .22Mag, I'd buy the Single Nine. Not really a big deal.
You can never please everybody. :roll:
onehandgunner
Single-Sixer
CraigC does have a valid point. I will shoot LR thru my Single Six to warm up but I have dedicated it to 22mag and use the Single 10 for LR. Isn't it ironic on how that worked out, man, who'd a thunked it.
To the original question, the Single-Ten can't fit ten magnums so it can't be a convertible. The Single-Nine I believe is the answer to those that want a higher capacity magnum and I believe they didn't make it a convertible in deference to the Single-Ten. I can certainly see a convertible Single-Nine in the future and can see the Single-Ten going away.
It's been my experience that most folks carry magnums for hunting and camp protection and do most of their shooting with .22LR. I have two convertibles and rarely shoot any magnums at all, but it's a nice to have option in my mind. I can see a Single-Ten in my future, but I have no personal need for a dedicated magnum.
It's been my experience that most folks carry magnums for hunting and camp protection and do most of their shooting with .22LR. I have two convertibles and rarely shoot any magnums at all, but it's a nice to have option in my mind. I can see a Single-Ten in my future, but I have no personal need for a dedicated magnum.
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Hondo44
Hawkeye
If they don't come out with a convertible soon I'm too old to wait for anything anymore.
If my single 10 cylinder works in the 22 mag single 9 (and it should), the single 10 is going back to Ruger for an extra 22 LR cylinder and I'll sell my single 10 and have a convertible single 9.
With all those holes, at least the chambers should align with the loading gate like my single ten, since the 22 frames don't have the indexing pawl system.
I use my LR cyl for plinking and target. The 22 Mag will knock down rock chucks (Marmots) and keep'em down.
If my single 10 cylinder works in the 22 mag single 9 (and it should), the single 10 is going back to Ruger for an extra 22 LR cylinder and I'll sell my single 10 and have a convertible single 9.
With all those holes, at least the chambers should align with the loading gate like my single ten, since the 22 frames don't have the indexing pawl system.
I use my LR cyl for plinking and target. The 22 Mag will knock down rock chucks (Marmots) and keep'em down.
flatgate
Hawkeye
ChiefTJS said:
Yeah, I totally agree. BUT .44 magnums...........or larger.
flatgate
original question....Why??? I have no idea...."research" says a 9 or 10 shot .22 is "ok"??? Well, if I was CEO, I would not have spent our money this way. ......but I am not a CEO, "only" a shooter, a Ruger fanatic. Does that make the current Ruger CEO's not shooters?? not a bad question...can they prove they are shooters??? I can sure prove I am...22 to .44, I CAN SURE PROVE I AM A RUGER SHOOTER...CAN THE CURRENT CEO'S prove they are Ruger fans???
CraigC
Hawkeye
Yet folks have no problem whatsoever paying double for a K-22 that is .22LR only??? Or any of the myriad other .22 handguns that are NOT convertibles. Nobody gets bent because they can't shoot both cartridges from a rifle. I really don't see what the big deal is. Sometimes you have to step back and look at the big picture.
All my shooting with my Single-Six is with the LR cylinder. The Mag cylinder just sits in the box. In my mind my the convertible is this case is just 'not' useful.... It's added cost to the product as far as I am concerned. If you shoot both, buy the 10 AND the 9 
. Seems to me because of the different bullet diameters there was a compromise made for the Single-Six convertibles... So, if revolver is dedicated to one cartridge, you should get better accuracy. I would think anyway.
. Seems to me because of the different bullet diameters there was a compromise made for the Single-Six convertibles... So, if revolver is dedicated to one cartridge, you should get better accuracy. I would think anyway.My opinion too.... I admit as a teen it was the o' peanut .357 that was packed... but now it is the .45 Colt....
chet15
Hawkeye
Ruger should probably have looked at their own past history as to how popular a .22 Mag. only Single-Six was.
The Mag. was first introduced in 1959 as 6-1/2" barreled model. Not long after, folks began sending their .22 LR only Single-Sixes in to have the Mag. cylinder fitted to it. By 1961, Ruger figured out what a great idea this was, so came out with their Convertible model Single-Six in all four barrel lengths.
By November 1962, very few Mag. Single-Sixes were coming out of the factory and after that date I know of only eleven guns over a serial number range of 342128 to 389108 that were factory shipped as "Mag. only". After this, no guns were shipped as Mag. only except for a small run of maybe only 15 Super Single-Sixes with 6-1/2" barrel in the 555xxx range.
Long story short, the market conditions made the Mag. only Single-Six obsolete. People like the "value-added" idea of a Single-Six with two cylinders even though the Mag. was rarely shot (if shot at all) by the majority of owners.
The gun to put away will be the Single-Nine .22 Mag. only. Look for Ruger to turn this into a convertible before too long. This should not be a huge deal in the way of manufacturing as Ruger would literally make the 9-shot L.R. cylinders first, then simply ream out for the .22 Mag.
How about .22 LR only Single-Sixes through history? Well, again...after the convertibles came out in 1961, Ruger made maybe only 5% of their O.M. fixed sight Single-Sixes as LR, a small demand from the public that warranted a separate (cheaper) model who knew they would never use the .22 Mag anyway...(DUHHHH!).
After that Ruger tried the star model LR only NM Single-Sixes in 1975...which was deemed a failure after no more than a year.
Not content with letting dead horses lie, they tried again in 1986 with the "arrow" model LR Single-Sixes (discontinuing the convertible models while the "arrow" models were in production). FAILED after only a few months of production.
I really think Ruger will be making a Single-9 Convertible very shortly, which may even make the 6-shot Single-Sixes obsolete.
Chet15.
The Mag. was first introduced in 1959 as 6-1/2" barreled model. Not long after, folks began sending their .22 LR only Single-Sixes in to have the Mag. cylinder fitted to it. By 1961, Ruger figured out what a great idea this was, so came out with their Convertible model Single-Six in all four barrel lengths.
By November 1962, very few Mag. Single-Sixes were coming out of the factory and after that date I know of only eleven guns over a serial number range of 342128 to 389108 that were factory shipped as "Mag. only". After this, no guns were shipped as Mag. only except for a small run of maybe only 15 Super Single-Sixes with 6-1/2" barrel in the 555xxx range.
Long story short, the market conditions made the Mag. only Single-Six obsolete. People like the "value-added" idea of a Single-Six with two cylinders even though the Mag. was rarely shot (if shot at all) by the majority of owners.
The gun to put away will be the Single-Nine .22 Mag. only. Look for Ruger to turn this into a convertible before too long. This should not be a huge deal in the way of manufacturing as Ruger would literally make the 9-shot L.R. cylinders first, then simply ream out for the .22 Mag.
How about .22 LR only Single-Sixes through history? Well, again...after the convertibles came out in 1961, Ruger made maybe only 5% of their O.M. fixed sight Single-Sixes as LR, a small demand from the public that warranted a separate (cheaper) model who knew they would never use the .22 Mag anyway...(DUHHHH!).
After that Ruger tried the star model LR only NM Single-Sixes in 1975...which was deemed a failure after no more than a year.
Not content with letting dead horses lie, they tried again in 1986 with the "arrow" model LR Single-Sixes (discontinuing the convertible models while the "arrow" models were in production). FAILED after only a few months of production.
I really think Ruger will be making a Single-9 Convertible very shortly, which may even make the 6-shot Single-Sixes obsolete.
Chet15.
