Sideslings; Why. {Long w/ pics}

EVR

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For some reason the undersling has taken hold, but I hate it.

It only works sometimes, and then, not even the greatest. So it has its good points, but they are few and far between.

The gun companies need to give us side sling studs.

I do not use a sling while actively hunting but for much of what I do I need both hands free; skiing to and fro or trapping. The double sling makes the gun stay put and makes for comfortable carry over long distances. For hound hunting it is perfect as the hands are occupied with leashes for the hike out after the gun goes off. I use double slings a lot. For skiing, trapping, or just hiking when I want to bring a rifle, the double sling, side attachment is tops. You can bend over and tie your shoe or work on a set or otherwise use both hands without having the rifle flop around.

So for a long time I've cobbled on a variety of stocks looking for a method that would work. All "work" but I finally found the simplest.

Just run one extra stud on the side of the stock, then this affair I've cooked up here works for the forearm. I cobbled a few guns more-or-less unnecessarily-so but tho I amy be slow on the uptake, I'm persistent.

The problem with just using the forearm stud alone and attaching both slings to that is that the rifle twists and is darn irritating to the small of the back and lower back.

For example, on a 13-mile pull, alone, breaking trail the whole way, with a couple hikes through woods where the skis must be carried there really isn't any better way.

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Bending over with a rifle slung single means the gun flops this way and that. with the double-slings, it stays put.

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Das Heer with the K98k, the Russkies with their AK's and lots of other military rifles use side sling attachments and why the side sling {even single slung} has never caught on, I don't know. Seems that many if not most features of commercial rifles had their origin in military rifles, so I'm not sure why the side sling hasn't become common, or at least seen at all on commercial rifles?

The one military rifle with a side sling that is a loser is the British Lee-Enfield No5MkI with the butt attachment on the same side as the bolt handle, leaving the bolt knob to dig into whatever body part it finds. Making matters worse, the front attachment is under the barrel. There is only one way to comfortably carry a No5, hung down from the right shoulder. Dumb.

This new gizmo I cooked up allows rightside or leftside use {for a left-handed bolt action}. The sling swivel loop merely slides around for opposite carry. That's important for me since I am a lefty but have lots of right-handed rifles.

So here it is. Best of all is it works on all rifles;

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Rifle lays flat against the back;

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The progression over time;

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How the new one works, well;

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Anyway, with the new affair, I don't need to carve on any stocks any more tho the old mods have some advantages.
 
Interesting.
I'd say that the main reason a side sling mount isn't popular is due to more than just one thing. First, a side sling will put a sling mount into the cheek or arm of the shooter if it's installed on the same side as the shooters dominate side. Next,, the military does go with the under type for their parades. It "looks better." And the military thinks a soldier should have his weapon in hand all the time anyway,, so he has to hold the strap while marching. Next,, the military teaches the use of the sling as a support for shooting,, and since most people are right handed,, they consider the under mount more "universal."
I fully understand the reasons side mounts work for you. When moving around in the back country,, having to go on skis, or carrying other equipment,, worrying about a tool that won't be used but just a little,, it makes sense to have a side mount.
Have you noticed the backpacks nowadays that have a "pocket" of some type to carry the bow or rifle in them,, leaving the hands free?
Your method of having an adaptor to allow double slings,, like a backpack design has merit.
 
C:

Actually, the mount on the same side as shooter's dominant side does not touch the face {it does on some military mounts}.

At least mine doesn't. For a shooting sling, the unders are still there. But for carry and shooting, the side mount does not cause any trouble if it is mounted correctly.

By the way, the recessed mounts on the M77 were set up so there is no contact with the face. Then later, I realized that merely placing the swivel correctly eliminates the problem you note. Thus the military swivels installed on the CZ550.

The use of a small single swivel stud totally precludes any contact, placed correctly, and KISS tells me I should have gone that route in the first place!
 
Interesting. Very interesting. Me? I won't ski with a rifle but a LARGE BORE revolver, usually of Wyoming origin, is a constant companion on some ski excursions.

flatgate
 
This is the reason why flush-mount sling swivels on the side of the stock (flush cups) have become so popular in the precision rifle community. A typical aftermarket synthetic stock for this application may have 4, 5, or more flush cups installed in it, to allow for sling use and carrying in different positions.

When you think on it for a while, you kind of wonder why it took so many years for this to become popular!
 
You guys are fortunate! I can only "remember" when I used to ski and snowshoe. Unfortunately, my back and legs have "caught" up with my age and gone past it!.......................Dick :(
 
Enigma said:
This is the reason why flush-mount sling swivels on the side of the stock (flush cups) have become so popular in the precision rifle community. A typical aftermarket synthetic stock for this application may have 4, 5, or more flush cups installed in it, to allow for sling use and carrying in different positions.

When you think on it for a while, you kind of wonder why it took so many years for this to become popular!

True.

It would be nice to see flush-mounted options done up in a tasteful way on factory woodstocked rifles. Might generate some aftermarket double slings, too.

I'm not too sure there IS much of a market for such, tho. Probably best left for the shop-cobblers like me.
 

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