Self driving demonstration

[Fox Mike]

They can have this stuff. I was sweating and I wasn't even in the car. I did see that the speed never went above 35MPH, that I noticed anyway.

https://www.tesla.com/videos/autopilot-self-driving-hardware-neighborhood-long?redirect=no

 

[graygun]

As stupid as people are getting,this might be a necessity.

 

[exavid]

It would be more interesting if the video was at normal speed. I wonder why the gps map doesn't move?

 

[powder smoke]

Takes the fun out of driving! Some do not need a computer to do their thinking.
Just saying. ps

 

[blume357]

I was watching some of the dash camera video from my work vehicle the other day and it looks like you are flying / speeding down the road even at 35mph.... I'm trying to figure out where they did that... some of the roads sure looked familiar.

 

[Mobuck]

What about the guy who was reading a book while testing the auto-drive feature when the car's sensors could NOT distinguish the difference between the skyline and the side of a white semi-trailer???? Guess he lost his mind(in a couple of ways).

 

[Fox Mike]

It would be more interesting if the video was at normal speed. I wonder why the gps map doesn't move?

The GPS does show where the car is at all times. Make the video 'full screen' and you can see the little triangle car in the center of the GPS.

 

[coach]

As much as I don't want one, it's still impressive that a car can drive itself like that.

 

[Fox Mike]

As much as I don't want one, it's still impressive that a car can drive itself like that.

Might actually get to see one close up around here. I see that parts of US 40 and I-95 here in Maryland have been selected to use as a test site for those cars.

 

[Scout943]

Another example ( i. m. o.) of doing something just because it is possible to do it , i like driving .Not impressed and my son in law works for Tesla only thing that does impress about the cars are they are fast as hell ! :roll: :roll:

 

[Jeepnik]

Paint it Black is likely appropriate considering your last ride might be in the back of a big black car if you trust GPS.

Ignoring all of the horror stories of folks driving off cliffs or into lakes, I know for a fact that there are many places where the map information is wrong. If you check the lat. and long they are right. But, the map software associated with the gps system is incorrect.

Also, I have had more than one occasion where the gps just quit working. Loss of signal from the satellites is not at all uncommon. Try going through a canyon or long tunnel and see what can happen to the accuracy of the signal.

 

[gramps]

Jeepnik is correct! If it gets cloudy, the location is affected by several hundred feet. As is, I would never trust it!
gramps who uses GPS daily

 

[coach]

I agree about maps not always being correct. I've haven't seen one that could get me in and out of an airport with all the signs for where to go. The self driving cars use cameras and radar too and who knows what else.

 

[blume357]

I'm pretty sure the self driving feature on the car is not relying on GPS.

 

[SAJohn]

Here in Central Oregon we are currently suffering from "black" ice on some of the roads. I suspect these self driving things would kill you in these conditions. In packed snow, you have to start braking very early and very gently. You then pick your spot on where to stop based on road surface conditions and slope. Are these smart cars that smart? I doubt it.

There are many other situations were experience and common sense are way beyond the capabilities of self driving cars. For example, there are times when it is best to illegally cross a double line (kids, livestock, people on horseback, joggers wearing ear phones, drunks staggering along the roadside, etc.).

IMHO, the car companies are spending billions of dollars on something that is going to be a total failure. The lawyers are licking their chops.

 

[Jeepnik]

I'm pretty sure the self driving feature on the car is not relying on GPS.

So, if it doesn't use gps, how does the car know where it's at? Cameras and sensors might avoid crashes, and likely see stop lights, but I doubt any have an inertial guidance system built in. And even then you'd have to update you position from time to time to keep it tracking correctly.

Oh, and what happens if a traffic light is out. Does it stop, then go? Or does it just sit there trying to make up it's RAM as to what to do? What happens when the light is flashing red all four ways? And, how does it know to pull over when the cops think it's broken the law? Or, does it just pull an OJ and drive off at normal speeds while being pursued by 15 or 20 cop cars, and a squadron of cop and news choppers?

 

[Colonialgirl]

Looked to me like the car would on occasion stop too far BACK from the stop sign and then move up and stop again; Same thing with the twp pedestrians, came to almost complete stop and then moved on by the two people. Also watching the dash, I NEVER saw ANY turn signaling taking place before or during the turn.
I would NOT want to follow one down the road at ANY time.

 

[gramps]

When it breaks the law, will it pull over for a cop cars flashing lights, or any emergency vehicle. Who pays the fines? Enquiring minds want to know.
gramps

 

[exavid]

I'm sure the liberals will want to do the same thing they want to do with guns. Sue the company that made the car that caused the accident.

 

[caryc]

What does the car do if it and three other cars all reach a four way stop intersection at the exact same time?

 

[Jeepnik]

What does the car do if it and three other cars all reach a four way stop intersection at the exact same time?

Since they will likely be owned snowflakes, they will like start to cry and ask for a puppy and coloring book.

 

[coach]

What does the car do if it and three other cars all reach a four way stop intersection at the exact same time?

I was wondering that too. A little eye contact or a hand gesture generally gets those 4 way stops moving. But then again I don't have a ph.d. in engineering.

 

[Big Old Boy]

Imagine a traffic circle, oh no. How about a road that is a glare of ice a a deer steeps out the car brakes and hits the oncoming car. To many veritables. For me no thanks.

 

[Bull Barrel]

Its only as smart as the programmer can make it.

 

[ph_redhawk]

Too much software -- Having worked with many software "engineers" during my 35 years as an electronics engineer I would never ride in one of those critters.

 

[Mike J]

Not for me.

 

[caryc]

It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you're always going to need a real person sitting in that drivers seat.

I would not get in one without that person in the drivers seat.

 

[coach]

A link to a short article about self driving cars. Of course the prediction that kids born today will never drive is a little self serving since the the guy saying it is the head of a robotics institute. I remember the flying car predictions.
https://marketbusinessnews.com/kids-born-today-will-never-drive-says-robot-valley-champion/151235

 

[wiz1997]

I would never trust the self driving system for a few reasons.

The first would be someone out there will figure a way to "hack" the system just because they can.

I worked at a place that uses LGV, laser guided vehicles, peopleless forklifts, to move finished pallets from the production line to the storage area.

Then the LGV's will pick the finished pallets from the storage area and load them in tractor trailers.

If an LGV lost communication with the system it would just stop where it was.

Then because the one had "disappeared" from the system, the rest would also stop.

Many "glitches" in the system took hours to straighten out.

Created a lot of problems when they all stopped.

Heard this extremely loud crash one night and went to investigate.

Found one of the LGV forklifts drove off the loading dock.

The truck driver thought he was completely loaded and pulled away from the dock.

The load required two more pallets, so the LGV forklift tried to put the two pallets into a trailer that was no longer there.

According to the programmers " it's not suppose to do that", but it did.

 

[SamV]

I too see countless problems coming with driverless vehicles. But they are coming whether you want one or not. You don't think logstics companies are seeing the potential savings from not having thousands of drivers. No more limits on driver's time behind the wheel or other breaks. Trucks could be driven around the clock. We all know that there will be problems. And they will work them out.