Hi Well they are to high for a lot of folks it is very easy to smack your forehead with the scope if used on a high power rifle and for me they are just plain ugly sorry but you asked
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See-through scope mounts
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De gustibus non disputandum. Some people like these mounts, others don't. I don't. If I have optics, I want them as close to the bore as possible. Individual preference, I guess.
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mattsbox99
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They are ugly as sin. I have had a few sets, but now I just get QD rings when I'm scoping a rifle that has iron sights.
I will make a qualification to my original post. I will admit that they are not the prettiest mounts but I do like them on my lever guns. I can get better accuracy at distance, yet get fast target aqquisition when game jumps up quick with the iron sights.
I had them on a 10/22 for a while... the problem is your accuracy is only good at one distance and it is much more difficult to get your eye in just the right place for the scope at every shot.
cbass said:
If quick target acquisition is a problem, you have too much scope. For that type of hunting, a 1.5-4.5X cranked down to 1.5X or 2X, and mounted in the proper position is what you really need. Weaver offers a 1-3X with a straight 1" tube that will mount REALLY low, making target acquision a sanap.
The see-through mounts put the scope in a terrible position for decent accuracy, and they really obstruct the field of vision that you would have with normal iron sights.
Your money, your choice, but I recommend taking a very hard look at a lower-powered scope mounted so that your eye comes naturally to the proper position behind the scope, and you have a good cheek weld on the stock.
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IMHO, they do tend to put the scope too high for a good "check weld" with the rifle stock. And, I think the whole "iron sights are faster than scopes" argument is suspect. With just a little practice, I think most shooters can align a properly mounted (and properly chosen) scope faster than MOST iron sights. Exceptions would be maybe "Express" type sights or a larger-aperture "peep" sight. When you think about it, with typical iron sights you have three things to align - target, front sight, rear sight. With a wide field of view, low-power scope you only have two - crosshairs and target. Like I said, just my opinion, certainly my preference. Each to his own. Pay your $$ and take your pick. :wink:
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Probably the quickest handling/pointing and quickest target acquisition rifle I have is a Marlin .35 Rem. with a low-mounted Bushnell 1.5-4.5x scope.
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Just ordered some rings for another Marlin 336 lever, I wanted to mount as low as possible. I saw that midway USA has a fitment chart, you go by the actual bell/objective diameter of your scope (a "40 mm" objective bell scope is actually more like at least 44mm). It will tell you whether you need low, med, high, x-high rings.
wildhobbybobby
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In addition to their ergonomic defects, see-through mounts are structurally very weak. They are made of soft aluminum and because of their height, a heavy scope will create a moment of inertia that will tend to deform the rings over time, especially on a hard-kicking rifle.
I once watched a gunsmith bore sight a scope in see-through rings by merely bending them with hand pressure until the reticle was in rough alignment with the bore.
See-through rings may be OK for light-duty use with mild calibers in conditions where the rifle can be treated gently, but they are not at all reliable for rough conditions or heavy recoil situations. The heavier the scope, the less reliable see-through rings will be.
I once watched a gunsmith bore sight a scope in see-through rings by merely bending them with hand pressure until the reticle was in rough alignment with the bore.
See-through rings may be OK for light-duty use with mild calibers in conditions where the rifle can be treated gently, but they are not at all reliable for rough conditions or heavy recoil situations. The heavier the scope, the less reliable see-through rings will be.
