As far as micro pistols go (to some of us sensitive oldfarts anyway), there still is a substantial weight difference between something like my Kahr CM9 and LCP Max when pocket carrying in light shorts.
Since we all know the 333 rule that says the vast majority of armed attacks last for three seconds, within three yards, and with three shots fired, a 380 with either a deep penetration G9 type round, or a Critical Defense HP type round would be very sufficient and easier to put three rounds on target at close range under stress. Out to ten yards and beyond, a four inch barrel 9mm would be easier to keep on target. I found the LCP to be too small for my medium size hands but very concealable. Instead I went with the Security 380 through which I’ve fired 2500 rounds so far and am deadly accurate from draw under ten yards. And it’s still very concealable.
Smallest pocketable .45 acp I can think of is the Kahr CW45, msrp is $528. About the same size as your AMT .45.
It is for some. There are many who feel a .22lr if sufficient for self defense, also available in the LCP line.
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Thanks for the drop test report!
I had a Kel-Tec P3AT for several years. It now falls into the category of "the one that got away." I had a few handguns and decided to sell it to fund another purchase. I shouldn't have did that. That little pistol never had any malfunctions at all - not the first one. I shot plenty of FMJ through it, along with some Cor-Bon all copper ammo. It just worked, all the time. At least one of my recoil sensitive friends wouldn't shoot it after firing a few rounds through it, but I loved it. I'm seriously considering buying a new Ruger LCP soon, and from what I've read, they seem to be as reliable as the Kel-Tec was.
I bought one for my wife, and her hands are too weak to hold it steady and it jams a lot. Does not jam with me.
They seem to have a limp wrist factor in that it seems my wife gets more jams with it.
And this was on a hard floor.... I think I actually did it three times over the years... hard wood, tile and even concrete... each time with one in the chamber... and yes I know you aren't supposed to do this....
I agree. Ruger should have made the LCP a 32 auto like the Kel-Tec P32.
Not supposed to drop. But are supposed to have one in the chamber according to me.
I guess some folks just can't handle it. I once fire 180 factory .357 magnum rounds in one day at the range. When I came home, I had Band-Aids on the web of my thumb and a bruised palm. All I used in law enforcement was revolvers, mostly .357. We had to buy our own guns, and I was too cheap to buy a Glock or Sig when others started getting them. I carried .357 ammo in the gun and speed loaders, but we used .38 special wadcutters at the range and to qualify. That worked for years, then the sheriff got a new legal advisor who decided that we had to qualify with the same thing we carried. So, I had to qualify with .357 magnum ammo (Super Vel, as I recall). That was what I'd call "snappy."
Rock Island makes some compact sizes in .45 1911’s.
This is the first time, other than a magazine article that I have heard feedback on the laser setup. Good to know.
I used Armalites. They are specifically made for each of the LCPs, each model different. Barely noticeable on the gun, which still fits in the original holster. The cool part is that there is no on-off switch to bother with. Skin contact ( your hand naturally sits where this will happen) turns it on, removal turns it off. DISCLAIMER: I am just a satisfied customer. I have nothing to do with Armalite. BTW, I got red, but I think they make green lasers as well.
The RI's are close, but still over an inch taller and longer. The closest I could find was the Baby Rock, but that's only a 9mm.
You are comparing a compact 1911 to an LCP?
