Ruger SA Revolver ? Whats the difference?

arrowmike

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Im looking at a few SA revolver but dont know what the difference is between them. My friend has a vaquero I shot it and liked it, just did not like that the sights are fixed. What other than the sights makes these different(bisley, vaquero and blackhawk)? Is it the grip? The frame? Finish?

Any help would be great. Thanks
 
You did not say, but if it says just "Vaquero" on the frame, it's merely a fixed-sight/smoothed top-strap version of the full sized, adjustable-sight New Model Blackhawk which has been produced essentially unchanged since 1973 (the Vaquero was built from the 1990s through 2005 or so, with occasional clean-up runs showing up). Otherwise, same basic gun except for the Vaquero's steel (vs aluminum) gripframe and ejector rod housing.


If it says "New Vaquero," made since 2006, it's part if the newer, slightly smaller mid-frame series which also includes adjustable sight 50th Anniversary .357 flattop and, most recently, .44 Special flattop. These are closely patterned after the (size of the) original Ruger flattops of the 50s as well as the famous Colt single action (SAA). Unlike the full-sized Vaquero and NM Blackhawk, the New Vaquero is not offered in .44 Mag. The mid-frame guns can shoot basically any .357, while "hot"/"Ruger Only" .45 loads are to be reserved for the larger frame guns. Contrary to popular myth, like the Colt and its clones, the mid-frame New Vaquero can handle "regular" .45 loads fine, not just powered-down "cowboy" loads.


The "odd" one in a sense, is a sort of hybrid: the 50th Anniversary .44 Mag Blackhawk (flattop), which marries the new smaller flattop gripframe with the "regular" (larger) NM Blackhawk cylinder frame.


The Bisley is a special longer (and differently shaped) gripframe/hammer combination favored by many especially shooting hotter loads--for better recoil control...or others just find them more comfortable to handle and shoot--available (generally)
in all the frame model/configurations above.


There are a myriad sub-variants, special caliber runs, but-if details, exceptions, etc., not discussed here, but these are the basic "modern" (recent decades) choices and differences. All modern-era (post '73) Rugers are "New Models" (NM)--characterized by the transfer bar mechanism allowing a "full six" loaded, versus the hammer-mounted firing pin single action models patterned after the Colt design, which continues today--which "requires" (highly recommends) just five (load one, skip one, load four).


Later edit: regarding finishes, the large ("regular"Blackhawk) frame Vaquero and, until 2009, New Vaqueros had a chemically applied "color-case hardening-look" finish on the frame. Many owners either didn't care for the look or had problems with rusting or at least wear-off, as of 2009 all fixed sight (NV) models are just blued--like their Blackhawk brethren--or of course stainless. Stainless large and mid-frame (flattop) Blackhawks generally have a duller or flatter, satin stainless finish versus the glossy stainless Vaqueros, differentiated presumably for the Vaqueros to look like the nickel Colts of yore, which they don't do a bad job of.
 
So far I know that I want a Ruger SA in 45LC and it to be able to handle "hot loads- buffalo bore". Also it will be a new model- I want to be able to put a full 6 rounds in gun and be able to carry it in the woods.
 
arrowmike":c2n4x36j said:
So far I know that I want a Ruger SA in 45LC and it to be able to handle "hot loads- buffalo bore". Also it will be a new model- I want to be able to put a full 6 rounds in gun and be able to carry it in the woods.

Sounds like you're well on your way toward making a selection.

Welcome to the forum, and happy shopping! :P
 
Yep - sounds like the man has a plan. Now all he needs is to select his finish and barrel length, then whether it needs to be brand spanking new or used in good condition. Sure you wouldn't want of those nifty short barrelled 44mag Supers too?
If it is mainly a carry woods gun, I suggest the 5 1/2 or 4 5/8s barrel for easy carry and quicker deployment. Of course that's just my 2c.
Welcome to the Ruger Family!
 
Welcome to the Forum arrowmike!
The differences in various SA models has been explained above.
And,, you've laid out your requirements to the point that it's easy to help narrow your search a bit.
You want a Blackhawk in 45 Colt.
The NM Blackhawk will safely carry 6 rounds,, and has adjustable sights. Now, to determine the finish,, blued or stainless is a personal prefference,, as is the barrel length.
You have 3 barrel length options,, 4-5/8, 5-1/2, or 7-1/2".
You also have the option of getting a "convertable" model that has an extra cylinder in 45 ACP.
Then there is the 2 different grip frames,, a "standard" plow handle,, or the sharper angle Bisley.
Some of these variations are currently available,, but a few are not in the 2010 catalog. (Such as a blued convertable.)
Good luck in your search!
 
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Welcome to the forum!

I suggest you handle a couple if you can, to see if you have a preference of the Bisley grip/hammer/trigger vs. the cowboy/"plowhandle" version. Either is good, but many prefer the Bisley for full power "Ruger only" loads.

I'm exceptionally happy with my stainless Bisley convertible (.45 Colt/.45 ACP). You can find them around.

-- Sam
 
Sounds like you need to get to the range with a few more guns... Those Buffalo Bore 45 Colt loads will kick like a mule... Meet me at the Skyline Management Area Range. 8 AM Saturday good for you?. I'll be shooting 44s over a chrono and checking accuracy for some 180s, 265s, and 300s over a full case of H110. The real intent is checking out a couple of Freedom Arms 44s but I can bring XR3s, XR3-Reds, Dragoons and Bisleys to play with... Don't really think you'll be able to tell the difference in my 44 mag loads and good heavy 45 Colt stuff...
 
Here are my recent choices:
Ruger .44 Lipsey Special on the mid-frame (Blackhawk):

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Then there is the SS Bisley .45 Colt/.45 ACP convertible on the full size frame:

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NOTE: Both of these have my personal preference in barrel lengths, 5½".

YMMV
Dale53
 
Thanks for all the help. I looked some more tonight and it looks like the 45LC bisley SS 5.5" is what felt best and I just like the way it looks too.
 
Thanks for all the help. I looked some more tonight and it looks like the 45LC bisley SS 5.5" is what felt best and I just like the way it looks too.
 
Axehandle":1l5bn9c8 said:
Sounds like you need to get to the range with a few more guns... Those Buffalo Bore 45 Colt loads will kick like a mule... Meet me at the Skyline Management Area Range. 8 AM Saturday good for you?. I'll be shooting 44s over a chrono and checking accuracy for some 180s, 265s, and 300s over a full case of H110. The real intent is checking out a couple of Freedom Arms 44s but I can bring XR3s, XR3-Reds, Dragoons and Bisleys to play with... Don't really think you'll be able to tell the difference in my 44 mag loads and good heavy 45 Colt stuff...

Sounds like a good offer to me - are you deeper south than me? Maybe Alabama? Wish you were closer! I might have to be there too! And I could bring a couple of 45's.
 
I goofed. I MEANT to say a stainless (not blued,) version of the convertablewasn't available. Another case of my mind going one way,, & my typing fingers going another,,,!
 
45colt with adjustable sights? i would go with the blackhawk convertable and be able to shoot 45acp also. more so now that 45colt is so hard to find.
you can put a bisley frame on later.
 
contender":1y2yduw9 said:
I goofed. I MEANT to say a stainless (not blued,) version of the convertablewasn't available. Another case of my mind going one way,, & my typing fingers going another,,,!

Don't sweat it, I'm suprised my backspace and delete keys have any lettering on them.

Then there is the edit key...
 
you can put a bisley frame on later

You can, for about another $200 + labor. I would get a Bisley in 45LC and then look for a cylinder in 45ACP if you want one. The 45ACP has not proven the most accurate out of a 45LC barrel, cylinders are fairly easy to find.
 
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