I just recently purchased a Ruger single six new model .22 cal..The other cylinder that came with the pistol is in the red bag, but it is not marked 22 wrm nor is it fluted...I tried the 22 mag shell and it fits, will not fit in other cylinder.. Did Ruger issue mag cylinders not marked or fluted ? mwl
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Short answer, yes,, you have a Single-Six convertable. It's correct to have a non-fluted cylinder, and many of them are not marked.
Short answer, yes,, you have a Single-Six convertable. It's correct to have a non-fluted cylinder, and many of them are not marked.
Snubshooter
Bearcat
Ruger does not mark the caliber on the cylinder. I have 3 Convertibles, a Single Six from the '60s and 2 357/9 Blackhawks. None of them have the cal. marked on the cylinders only the last 3 digits of the serial number of the Gun they go with.
Hondo44
Hawkeye
Snubshooter said:
They roll mark the New Model cylinders with 22 WR Mag caliber since the late 1970's or so. They are much more common than fluted, unmarked magnum cylinders.
Revised to read: ... fluted, unmarked magnum cylinders.
Joe S.
Hunter
i dont think mine was marked... just sold it or id check for ya.
Hondo44
Hawkeye
mwl said:
Yes, during the 1975-76 period, magnum cylinders transitioned from fluted & non-marked to non-fluted and marked on both stainless and blue guns. I have four SS single sixes from 1974 to 1976 all purchased new by me; the 74 and one 76 have fluted, unmarked mag cyls and the 75 and other 76 have non-fluted, marked cyls. So it wasn't a crisp changeover but took a year or so of transition. About the same time the 22 LR cylinders lost the firing pin groove as well, so the marked cyls made it easy to tell them apart.
I revised my above post because I described the unmarked mag cyl as non-fluted which is incorrect.
I have an "Old" or "Original" Ruger Vaquero .45LC and it seems to shoot fine...loading it I noticed the cylinder does not exactly line up/stop in line with the loading gate. It can be rotated by hand to line up but shouldn't it just align into place without having to turn it by hand? I bought it used so I am not sure if something is worn out or what. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
JWhitmore44
Blackhawk
smsgtcoop said:
That's how they work, the Vaquero, New Model Blackhawk/Super Blackhawk, New Model Single Six do not index the cylinder in line with the loading gate after you hear the click. If you rotate the cylinder till it clicks you just missed the hole
Hondo44
Hawkeye
smsgtcoop said:
Welcome to the forum. That is one downside of the New Models with safety transfer bar. However the New Vaqueros and new model flat top Balckhawks have a device to line up the chambers.
There are three easy ways to update the original NMs; from no cost to a little over $125. Cylinder chambers will align with loading gate opening exactly like the New Vaq. and NM Flat Tops.
Solution 1. No cost and almost no skill required:
http://marauder.homestead.com/files/FreeSpin.html
Your cylinder will freewheel in both directions with loading gate opened. The great benefit here is that if you load a round that might have a high primer or other problem that makes the cylinder tight to turn, you don't have to pull the cylinder to unload it, just turn the cylinder in reverse and unload it thru the loading gate.
Solution 2. Do #1 above and purchase and install three little parts that comprise the New Vaq and NM Flat Tops indexing pawl. $10 in parts, must have skill to drill small hole and tap threads in the hole. I can provide part #s if you choose to do this.
Solution 3. Install a Ron Powers replacement 1/2 cock hammer about $125. By cocking the hammer to 1/2 cock the NMs will work just like OM Rugers by aligning the chamber and loading gate. You can also do this on New Vaq and NM Flat Tops if you want to operate the same as a NM w/ Powers hammer or Old Models.
Do you work on your guns? If not, here's a video to show how simple they are to disassemble and re-assemble:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfOXBa8K8Ow
tek4260
Buckeye
Just thinking out loud, but has anyone tried to add a "leg" to the bottom of a pawl so it will retract away from the ratchet when the hammer is down like on the New Vaqueros?
Hondo44
Hawkeye
tek4260 said:
I haven't heard of anyone. You'd also have to mill the notch into the upper surface of the grip frame for it to work. So it's much easier to use one of the solutions above. Someday we may be able to buy the free spin pawl used by Ruger, but the grip frame would still need to be notched for it to work which is not difficult. I have added the notch to put a different grip frame on a New Vaquero and new Flat Top Blackhawk which both come with the free spin pawl.
Chris
Blackhawk
Snubshooter said:
+1
tek4260
Buckeye
tek4260 said:
Nevermind, I noticed that Brownells sells a pawl from PC that is a copy of the Ruger retracting pawl. I guess I need to get out of the stone age and actually look and see what has become "recently available"
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