Ruger Awarded Double Stack .22LR Magazine Patent
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That would be fun!
gunman42782
Hunter
Interesting, very interesting. Ruger already has a double stack .22 magazine in the LCP2, but the one in the drawing looks like it's for the 22/45.
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chet15
Hawkeye
Saw that a while back. Figured Ruger would be offering some models with that by now.
Chet15
Chet15
Interesting to see if the patent will have broader applications.
As it is if the magazine doesn’t fit my current MK IV then I have no use for it. I’m not going to go out and buy a new 22 just to have more capacity with a new magazine.
Perhaps Ruger will offer new lowers to fit the new magazines. Cost then would have to be a factor. Uppers are easy enough to swap with lowers on the current MK series.
We’ll see what the future brings….
As it is if the magazine doesn’t fit my current MK IV then I have no use for it. I’m not going to go out and buy a new 22 just to have more capacity with a new magazine.
Perhaps Ruger will offer new lowers to fit the new magazines. Cost then would have to be a factor. Uppers are easy enough to swap with lowers on the current MK series.
We’ll see what the future brings….
After a little rumination, based on very limited info, I'm thinking:
1. It will be called the Mark V.
(Duh. But still maybe completely wrong. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts & minds of Management?)
2. The current Mark IV uppers will fit the new grip frame. (That would make production & economic sense.)
(BUT (I like big BUTs and I cannot lie!), if the feed angle required by the new magazine differs from the Mark I-IV standard magazines, then I could see a new, slightly altered upper design being required that might or might not be compatible with the Mark IV frames/magazine design. Sometimes engineers kill two birds with one stone!)
3. They will only offer the new grip frame as new complete pistols.
(A complete pistol brings in more money than a grip frame only would, though they could probably sell a complete grip frame/magazine package at a higher net profit margin than a complete pistol. That would be for the bean counters to decide. Offsetting that is that many will feel the same as mjh above, and be unwilling to spring for a complete pistol just to get the increased magazine capacity.)
4. It will initially be offered in the easily engineered/produced 22/45 synthetic grip frame pictured in the patent, since adapting the Target aluminum machined grip frame for the new magazine will (I assume) be more involved and capital intensive.
(I'm not a production engineer, so this assumption may be completely wrong, plus I think Ruger has the capital to do everything at one time if they want to. I also suspect they wouldn't want to give up the iconic Target pistol angle and profile that so many, including me, still love, but you never know what Management, in its infinite wisdom
, will do.)
This is all pure speculation.
1. It will be called the Mark V.
(Duh. But still maybe completely wrong. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts & minds of Management?)
2. The current Mark IV uppers will fit the new grip frame. (That would make production & economic sense.)
(BUT (I like big BUTs and I cannot lie!), if the feed angle required by the new magazine differs from the Mark I-IV standard magazines, then I could see a new, slightly altered upper design being required that might or might not be compatible with the Mark IV frames/magazine design. Sometimes engineers kill two birds with one stone!)
3. They will only offer the new grip frame as new complete pistols.
(A complete pistol brings in more money than a grip frame only would, though they could probably sell a complete grip frame/magazine package at a higher net profit margin than a complete pistol. That would be for the bean counters to decide. Offsetting that is that many will feel the same as mjh above, and be unwilling to spring for a complete pistol just to get the increased magazine capacity.)
4. It will initially be offered in the easily engineered/produced 22/45 synthetic grip frame pictured in the patent, since adapting the Target aluminum machined grip frame for the new magazine will (I assume) be more involved and capital intensive.
(I'm not a production engineer, so this assumption may be completely wrong, plus I think Ruger has the capital to do everything at one time if they want to. I also suspect they wouldn't want to give up the iconic Target pistol angle and profile that so many, including me, still love, but you never know what Management, in its infinite wisdom
, will do.)This is all pure speculation.
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I don't see them ever offing lowers as a separate item. They don't now. Why let some aftermarket company make the big money? -- You want to upgrade? go for it, but we're only selling complete guns.
kbm6893
Single-Sixer
If the increase in capacity is only 3 rounds or so, I’m not that impressed. If they work with existing guns then I see the appeal.
The Kel-Tec P-17 .22 LR comes with three plastic "staggered" magazines that hold 16 rounds each. Technically they aren't double stack but 16 rounds is a lot better than 10 and they function perfectly. I'm glad Ruger has stepped up to the table.
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You guys are making me cry. 10 round limits in NJ. The only exemptions are .22 tube fed rifles, and ,22 Gatling guns (no magazine).
Actnbill
Single-Sixer
I wonder if this would work on a 10/22 ???.........
RugerForMe
Blackhawk
Makes me want to wait till they hit the market
I note that the drawings only show eight rounds. Likely that could be expanded by lengthening the mag for various applications. Without access to the patent text, we're not real sure what Ruger has in mind here. Patents are funny things to analyze. 
