Ruger American All weather

[hickoryhillbill]

I am seriously considering one in 270 Win. Does anyone have any first hand experience with one good or bad?

 

[planetcat]

I just got my son one in left handed .30-06, but won't be able to shoot it for a couple weeks. I'll report back when we get to the range. Lots of good feedback and reviews on the web.

 

[22/45 Fan]

I just got my son one in left handed .30-06.......

You bought a left-handed American "All-Weather", i.e. stainless steel, rifle? Ruger doesn't list any left handed Americans except in blued carbon steel. I wish the All-Weather was available left-handed but I've never seen one listed.

 

[planetcat]

I just got my son one in left handed .30-06.......

You bought a left-handed American "All-Weather", i.e. stainless steel, rifle? Ruger doesn't list any left handed Americans except in blued carbon steel. I wish the All-Weather was available left-handed but I've never seen one listed.

It's a Davidsons exclusive on gallery of guns. Same price as the right handed model with a unique part number not listed on the Ruger website. Multiple calibers available too.

 

[Buckeye Bill]

I have yet to find the All Weather models at the stores I visit. Lots and lots of the standard models but not SS.

Bill

 

[22/45 Fan]

It's a Davidsons exclusive on gallery of guns. Same price as the right handed model with a unique part number not listed on the Ruger website. Multiple calibers available too.

Wish I'd known about it a few months ago.

 

[hickoryhillbill]

I thought surely on a Ruger forum someone would have an American All Weather. LOL

 

[Buckeye Bill]

I hear you but I have not seen any in the stores.

The few SS models that I have seen have been on Gun Broker.

I have the Ranch version in 300 AAC and it is great. (Not SS)

I do not think that you can do wrong with an American Rifle.

Perhaps someone will chime in with their experiences with a SS American.

Bill

 

[planetcat]

I thought surely on a Ruger forum someone would have an American All Weather. LOL

Even though I haven't shot it yet, I'll give you some feedback on the ergonomics:

The fit and finish are extremely nice and comparable to rifles double the price. The bolt is a bit "crunchy", but with a very tight lock up and zero slop. It will feed like butter once it is worked in. The trigger is in line with all the reviews on it. It's my kids rifle and he wouldn't know if it was good or bad. I might knock a pound off if it though.

I think people are going to either love or hate the stock. It is very slim profile with a cushy recoil pad. I'm tipping 250+ lbs and find the rifle feels and looks small when shouldered, but LOP is adult size. It is a very light rifle, handles nice, and it's well balanced. The 22" barrel is the right length given the ergos. I'm going to expect a substantial amount of recoil in long action calibers due to the weight and stock style.
In general, I was really happily surprised at what a nice rifle it is for $500. I'm selling my kids POS Rem 700 sps. The Ruger is so much better made than the 700, I can't even describe it. I only hope the Ruger shoots as good as it feels.

 

[hickoryhillbill]

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Thanks for the info Planetcat. Just talked to my dealer and got it ordered.American All Weather in 270 Win. He said he had ordered several already for other clients and was impressed with the rifle. Will cost me 420.00 out the door.

 

[hickoryhillbill]

Picked up my rifle a few days ago and installed a 3x9 Bushnell DOA scope. After sighting in this rifle was printing 1in. groups at 100 yds. for 3 shots. Ruger American All Weather 270 Win. If they all shoot like this, Ruger has a winner. Fit and finish are good and bolt operation is smooth. I think Ruger could do better on the magazine though. All my other bolt guns are Mod 70 Win. so I had quality to compare it to. I am impressed. If you want a low cost bolt gun that will shoot , check it out.

 

[planetcat]

Picked up my rifle a few days ago and installed a 3x9 Bushnell DOA scope. After sighting in this rifle was printing 1in. groups at 100 yds. for 3 shots. Ruger American All Weather 270 Win. If they all shoot like this, Ruger has a winner. Fit and finish are good and bolt operation is smooth. I think Ruger could do better on the magazine though. All my other bolt guns are Mod 70 Win. so I had quality to compare it to. I am impressed. If you want a low cost bolt gun that will shoot , check it out.

Congrats! That's some good shooting for a $420 rifle. I really like the finish on the all weather, even though I don't think it's stainless steel. Just coated to look stainless. Does that seem accurate?

I got the scope mounted yesterday. Hope to shoot it over the long weekend. I found the bolt to be a bit sticky, but after working it a few times and some gun oil, it runs smooth. The plastic mags don't bother me much, but I haven't been able to see how they feed. I've heard they feed great, and I have to admit, their fit and finish is better than a lot of steel mags I have on other guns. Plus they are inexpensive. It's my kid's rifle. He's tickled pink over it, so that's all that matters.

 

[rich e]

I bought one last fall at Syracuse Gun Show, came as a package deal with a Nikon scope. Wanted to try one for awhile after reading everyones great reviews with the blued model. Mine is a 308, and with Winchester white box ammo, I got around 1.5" groups @ 100yds, but I'm sure it will do better when I work up a load for it.

 

[planetcat]

Hey hickory and Rich, do you guys notice a lot of trigger creep on your RAR? I can pull the trigger 3/8" before it fires. I actually increased the trigger pull a fair amount to eliminate the surprise when the firing pin finally releases. I guess it takes some getting used to.

 

[Lloyd Smale]

kind of curious as to why you think its so much better then that sps. Ive handled a few blued americans and my sps rem have better fit and finish. The matte bluing rem uses sure isn't custom grade but its much better then the americans. the sps has metal bottom mag box and follower the ruger uses plastic. Ive got nothing agaist an American. I wouldn't mind having one to make up a truck gun myself but its more comparable to the 770 series remingtons then it is the sps guns.

I thought surely on a Ruger forum someone would have an American All Weather. LOL

Even though I haven't shot it yet, I'll give you some feedback on the ergonomics:

The fit and finish are extremely nice and comparable to rifles double the price. The bolt is a bit "crunchy", but with a very tight lock up and zero slop. It will feed like butter once it is worked in. The trigger is in line with all the reviews on it. It's my kids rifle and he wouldn't know if it was good or bad. I might knock a pound off if it though.

I think people are going to either love or hate the stock. It is very slim profile with a cushy recoil pad. I'm tipping 250+ lbs and find the rifle feels and looks small when shouldered, but LOP is adult size. It is a very light rifle, handles nice, and it's well balanced. The 22" barrel is the right length given the ergos. I'm going to expect a substantial amount of recoil in long action calibers due to the weight and stock style.
In general, I was really happily surprised at what a nice rifle it is for $500. I'm selling my kids POS Rem 700 sps. The Ruger is so much better made than the 700, I can't even describe it. I only hope the Ruger shoots as good as it feels.

 

[hickoryhillbill]

I can't comment on the bluing. Mine is all stainless. On the trigger, I would say it compares to a Sav 11 I had about 10 yrs ago. After shooting it my neighbor says he would trade his 2 yr old 700 for it in a heartbeat. I think its all in what you want like cars and trucks. One brand does not fit all.

 

[rich e]

Lloyd, I'm a fan of Rem.700s also, I like the ADLs, because I like the internal mag, not so cold to hold when I'm hunting. Those metal plates get cold and that's exactly were the balance point is when your carrying it. I also like my Ruger American, maybe because the magazine is plastic, its also a little bit less heavy than my Remingtons. Whatever, I plan on keeping it for crappy weather hunting days. Here's a pic of my Remington ADLs.

 

[planetcat]

kind of curious as to why you think its so much better then that sps. Ive handled a few blued americans and my sps rem have better fit and finish. The matte bluing rem uses sure isn't custom grade but its much better then the americans. the sps has metal bottom mag box and follower the ruger uses plastic. Ive got nothing agaist an American. I wouldn't mind having one to make up a truck gun myself but its more comparable to the 770 series remingtons then it is the sps guns.

I thought surely on a Ruger forum someone would have an American All Weather. LOL

Even though I haven't shot it yet, I'll give you some feedback on the ergonomics:

The fit and finish are extremely nice and comparable to rifles double the price. The bolt is a bit "crunchy", but with a very tight lock up and zero slop. It will feed like butter once it is worked in. The trigger is in line with all the reviews on it. It's my kids rifle and he wouldn't know if it was good or bad. I might knock a pound off if it though.

I think people are going to either love or hate the stock. It is very slim profile with a cushy recoil pad. I'm tipping 250+ lbs and find the rifle feels and looks small when shouldered, but LOP is adult size. It is a very light rifle, handles nice, and it's well balanced. The 22" barrel is the right length given the ergos. I'm going to expect a substantial amount of recoil in long action calibers due to the weight and stock style.
In general, I was really happily surprised at what a nice rifle it is for $500. I'm selling my kids POS Rem 700 sps. The Ruger is so much better made than the 700, I can't even describe it. I only hope the Ruger shoots as good as it feels.

The main issues I've had with the sps are: a. Very sloppy bolt, b. Doesn't reliably feed quality production ammo, and c. The spray paint finish is not durable under mild climate and woods hunting conditions. Mine has an internal base plate, no magazine. I admit it goes bang when the trigger is pulled and is accurate enough for hunting; however, spending over $600 for a youth rifle that's similar in quality to my other kids $350 Mossberg ATR is disappointing. I've shot Rem 700 bdl and adl, and the sps is not the same whatsoever. Maybe I got one made on Friday before a holiday.

 

[planetcat]

Range Report - Ruger American All-Weather .30-06 Left Handed Model:
So I took my son and his rifle to the range last weekend to sight it in. Mounted a Bushnell Trophy XLT 1.5-6x44 on it (great scope for woods hunting btw). We could only shoot out to 50 yards. Federal 180 soft points were clover leaf over lapping holes right out of the box. Got the scope dialed in, went to 150 grain Remington UMC FMJ's. Grouped about 5 inches at 50 yards! Barrel was not hot, so it wasn't that. Had to leave, but will return with some different ammo and try 165 grain and 150 grain fusions. In general, very smooth, accurate rifle. The light weight really does make you feel the recoil, especially with the 180 grain ammo. As I mentioned earlier, there is a lot of trigger creep; however, I tightened down the trigger pull to probably 5+ lbs. and that helped the feel of the trigger. All in all, very pleased. I'll report back when I figure out which factory ammo shoots best out of it.

 

[hickoryhillbill]

Thanks for the update Planetcat

 

[danal73]

I just bought a R.A.R. 30-06 that had scope base but no rings, am I limited to Ruger scope rings or are the bases universal?

 

[9x19]

The Americacn comes with a Weaver style base installed... any Weaver-style rings should fit.

 

[OzzyDave]

They seem to shoot well. Have a mate bought a blued 243 for general pest control. In his words "shoots better than me". 5 shots of factory Federal power shok 80 grain inside a quarter. He is a happy camper.

 

[Lloyd Smale]

I once read on a long range rifle fourm where a guy had asked Remington what the difference is in a bdl and a sps or even an adl (other then the lack of bottom metal on the adl),which by the way is what you have and was told the only differce is finish and stocks and that the barreled actions all come off the same assembly line.

The blind magazine guns are adls not sps and go for about a 150 bucks less then a sps. If you paid 600 for your adl you got took. Walmart here sells them with a cheap 3x9 scope for under 500 bucks every day of the year and that's the camo one. Ive seen the matte blued adls with no scope at Walmart for 350 during pre deer season sales. For that money you could about part it out and make a profit. A rem action is worth 300 bucks.

Sorry but the sps is just a higher grade rifle then an American and it should be as it costs more. the American is made to compete with the 783s and against that rife its hands down better. As to which shoots better, well I cant really say because ive never owned a American. I have heard they shoot well though. Ive owned probably a half a dozen sps rems. I had one that was a mediocre shooter. One, an 06, that is an exceptional shooter and the rest of them would shoot moa with loads they like. Id bet if you took 6 americans your results would be about the same. As to finish holding up my o6 is a good 10 years old now and still looks like new.

I talked to the guy that owns the water transfer camo place here localy when I had the stock on my Kimber montana done. He said that his most popular gun is the americans. Mostly because the metal finish is so poor that they look like crap after one year in the woods. I told him that all the new cheap guns have cheap finishes and maybe what hes seeing is lots of americans because there a pretty popular seller right now. He agreed but said that out of all of them the rugers come in more banged up then any.

kind of curious as to why you think its so much better then that sps. Ive handled a few blued americans and my sps rem have better fit and finish. The matte bluing rem uses sure isn't custom grade but its much better then the americans. the sps has metal bottom mag box and follower the ruger uses plastic. Ive got nothing agaist an American. I wouldn't mind having one to make up a truck gun myself but its more comparable to the 770 series remingtons then it is the sps guns. The main issues I've had with the sps are: a. Very sloppy bolt, b. Doesn't reliably feed quality production ammo, and c. The spray paint finish is not durable under mild climate and woods hunting conditions. Mine has an internal base plate, no magazine. I admit it goes bang when the trigger is pulled and is accurate enough for hunting; however, spending over $600 for a youth rifle that's similar in quality to my other kids $350 Mossberg ATR is disappointing. I've shot Rem 700 bdl and adl, and the sps is not the same whatsoever. Maybe I got one made on Friday before a holiday.