Ruger 44 carbine scope base
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To the best of my knowledge, nobody makes one. I don't recall the numbers, but the only ones I've ever seen were Weaver two-piece bases.... one mounts at the two rear screws on top of the receiver, and one mounts at the rear end of the barrel. Considering the difference in height of the two pieces, a one-piece would be a pretty complicated part to make within a reasonable price.
Even if there ever was a one-piece base, the length of time the gun has been out of production and the relatively small number produced would make it highly likely that it is no longer manufactured.
Even if there ever was a one-piece base, the length of time the gun has been out of production and the relatively small number produced would make it highly likely that it is no longer manufactured.
Yes they are different. You mount one on the barrel and the other at the rear of the receiver.
luvs2hunt62
Blackhawk
can you post a picture of the top and side of the receiver and barrel??
cowboycopus
Single-Sixer
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd482/roadkingsteve/PICT1253_zpsfd4a7d6a.jpg
The two big screws in the middle are NOT for scope mount.
The two big screws in the middle are NOT for scope mount.
twerpymoon
Single-Sixer
SHOOTER said:
Well,,,,,, kinda yes and kinda no. The .44 Carbine and 10-22 receiver radius is the same. And the spacing of the mounting screws on the .44 receiver is the same as the front set of the 10-22. So if you have access to an older version of a Weaver TO-9(the current version has a different number of screw holes) it can be easily modified to work. At least I thought it was easy. This is predicated that your rifle is not a newer one that has blind front receiver screws. The rifle also needs to be disassembled.
If you swap the base front to back, two of the holes line up.
Then if you remove the rear screw of the front pair(which is a size 6-40, the same as Ruger ring screws or Weaver ring cap/strap screws) and install the base with the rear screws, you can flip the rifle upside down and use the now empty screw hole as a guide to center punch the location for a new hole in the base. Be careful not to booger the threads with the punch.
Remove the base, drill the hole, flip the base over and countersink for the new screw head. Don't forget to get a correct size screw. The one you took out will not be long enough.
Voila! A one piece base installed.
As an added bonus, the older TO-9 base is not as tall as the new ones so the factory sights can still be used if so desired. Just in case your batteries die.
twerpy.
SteelShooter
Single-Sixer
Their website claims this fits the Ruger 44 carbine, available in blue and silver (stainless):
http://www.jackweigand.com/ranch.html
http://www.jackweigand.com/ranch.html
twerpymoon
Single-Sixer
It does say carbine. Not specifically the .44 Carbine but it does say carbine. Be that as it may, all of the other rifles it says it fits have integral ring mounts. The picture also shows angled screws that would clamp into the mounts. To the best of my knowledge the .44 Carbine was never produced with integral mounts.
I think their copywriter goofed.
twerpy.
I think their copywriter goofed.
twerpy.
Outstanding ! Well Played sir!!
twerpymoon said:SHOOTER said:
Well,,,,,, kinda yes and kinda no. The .44 Carbine and 10-22 receiver radius is the same. And the spacing of the mounting screws on the .44 receiver is the same as the front set of the 10-22. So if you have access to an older version of a Weaver TO-9(the current version has a different number of screw holes) it can be easily modified to work. At least I thought it was easy. This is predicated that your rifle is not a newer one that has blind front receiver screws. The rifle also needs to be disassembled.
If you swap the base front to back, two of the holes line up.
Then if you remove the rear screw of the front pair(which is a size 6-40, the same as Ruger ring screws or Weaver ring cap/strap screws) and install the base with the rear screws, you can flip the rifle upside down and use the now empty screw hole as a guide to center punch the location for a new hole in the base. Be careful not to booger the threads with the punch.
Remove the base, drill the hole, flip the base over and countersink for the new screw head. Don't forget to get a correct size screw. The one you took out will not be long enough.
Voila! A one piece base installed.
As an added bonus, the older TO-9 base is not as tall as the new ones so the factory sights can still be used if so desired. Just in case your batteries die.
twerpy.
cowboycopus
Single-Sixer
Not to change the thread...but does anyone know of a peep site for the old carbines?
cowboycopus
Single-Sixer
Chief 101 said:
PM Sent
flcracker64
Bearcat
I bought a Picatinny rail blank from Brownell"s and had Cole's in Clearwater, FL machine a custom base for me. With Hornady LeverEvolution rounds I get <3" groups at 100 yds.
The crazy thing is... I paid $250 plus the cost of the rail blank to have the base fabricated. I only paid $250 for the carbine (it had a cracked stock) and $85 for a replacement stock.
Such is my addiction.....
The crazy thing is... I paid $250 plus the cost of the rail blank to have the base fabricated. I only paid $250 for the carbine (it had a cracked stock) and $85 for a replacement stock.
Such is my addiction.....
If you are not in a hurry search for a Bausch & Lomb Trophy base for your 44 carbine. The base is still available on some of the gunsites for about $10 NIB. The search gets tough when you try to find rings for this base because they have not been made in a long time. Expect to pay about $40 for a set used. During your search make sure the rings are for the B&L Trophy base because B&L also made these rings for Weaver bases and they are not compatable.
Here's what I like about the B&L Trophy mount and rings. The base itself is similar to a 1 piece weaver base with cross slots for multiple mounting location but it is much lower profile than a weaver base. This allows me to use my carbine with 3 different sight setups. I can use a scope or remove the scope with the rings and be able to use the standard iron sights without any issues with seeing over the base. I also have a Williams 5D receiver sight that is mounted to the gun that can be slid into it's dovetail slot right behind the scope base. To use the receiver sight just fold down the rear sight leaf. There have not been any issues with holding zero with any of the sight configurations when changing from one to the other.
RSI
Here's what I like about the B&L Trophy mount and rings. The base itself is similar to a 1 piece weaver base with cross slots for multiple mounting location but it is much lower profile than a weaver base. This allows me to use my carbine with 3 different sight setups. I can use a scope or remove the scope with the rings and be able to use the standard iron sights without any issues with seeing over the base. I also have a Williams 5D receiver sight that is mounted to the gun that can be slid into it's dovetail slot right behind the scope base. To use the receiver sight just fold down the rear sight leaf. There have not been any issues with holding zero with any of the sight configurations when changing from one to the other.
RSI
pcbeachboy
Bearcat
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I have located a picatinny rail for my old style Ruger Carbine that uses the rear pair mount holes and the forward mount holes on the barrel. The web site is:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ruger-44-MAG-Carbine-Weaver-Picatinny-One-Piece-Scope-Mounts-/112395117682
It's pricey but I wanted to mount my Tasco ProPoint scope. $38.00 shipping included
Hope this helps. I'm new to this site.
pcbeachboy
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ruger-44-MAG-Carbine-Weaver-Picatinny-One-Piece-Scope-Mounts-/112395117682
It's pricey but I wanted to mount my Tasco ProPoint scope. $38.00 shipping included
Hope this helps. I'm new to this site.
pcbeachboy
