Ruger 1V 25-06 blues

[cclfn]

Well once again I let my lust for number ones get in the way of my better judgement and took a chance it would shoot. Three factory ammo's and about 2" groups. I am familiar with all the issues and pretty well versed on all the add on's and tricks to try but my health and patience has turned against me. I hate to see this old 70's vintage rifle slip threw my fingers without shooting one more deer with a Number One!

I am wondering if one of you more informed members know if there is a good "#1" gunsmith that I can just send this to that will return a rifle that shoots well. I know that's subjective and I don't want a benchrest gun just a hunting rifle that will shoot two shots in 1/2 -3/4 inch group if I do my part.

I have searched and found mention of a couple smith's but not recent or specifically Number One friendly.

Thanks in advance.

 

[dfletcher]

Do you handload for the 25.06? Maybe it's just me, but although I've been handloading for about 40 years the 25.06 has always been a bit of a challenge forr me, regardless of the rifle involved. I've a few bolts, some single shots and each one went through way too much "load development" than is usual for me.

 

[cclfn]

yes I do reload but have never been able to bring that kind of change with just reload development.
I was hoping there was a smith around that liked the Number Ones so that I might be able to discuss the cost of making a 1V a good shooter.

 

[wunbe]

I have much better group success with 100 gr bullets -- even factory fodder -- than with the heavier ones in my 1V. Mine is also free floated and has a 'tweaked' 3lb trigger.

wunbe

 

[gtxmonte]

I have a 1V in 25-06 and these are its two favorite loads. First is a CCI 200 primer, 45grs of 4320 and a 120gr Speer boat tail. The second is a CCI 200 primer, 50grs of H450 and a 117 gr Sierra boat tail.

Its usually not that there is really anything inherently WRONG with the rifle that a Smith needs to FIX, it's just they can be super picky. Now if the trigger is junk, that IS something that will help once corrected. The rest of it, like the Hicks Accurizer, forearm pressure pads, etc, that's just a matter of seeing what YOUR rifle wants. Load development consists of just "bumping" fireformed cases and seeing how far it wants the bullet off the lands or in the lands and trying things. Most of it is just time consuming and the average Smith is likely not going to do it. There are several custom rifle builders that offer "Accurizing services" and handle all this for you, but it usually isn't cheap

 

[picketpin]

Been shooting them since 1967. Can't add much to what has been said and you probably already know except in 40+ years I've NEVER run across a smith that I trust to get the most out of my #1s. They just don't work on enough to get really good or specialize in #1s. Most guys are pretty good at a Rem 700 but the vast majority have a bunch of ideas that are simply BS to what I have found in the last 40. Yes, I have a guy that re-barrels #1s for me, He can do a great trigger job but the little nuances that make a #1 "shoot" are not something he does or cares to do.

Talk to smiths and it's glass this, free float that put this here etc. Most of which I have found to be pointless. GENERALLY it's forearm pressure and barrel harmonics and there are several fixes you can try.

I won't question what works for somebody else. BUT out of all of my #1s, hunters, varminters and bench stuff NONE are free floated.

Ross

 

[dfletcher]

yes I do reload but have never been able to bring that kind of change with just reload development.
I was hoping there was a smith around that liked the Number Ones so that I might be able to discuss the cost of making a 1V a good shooter.

I'm not exactly an endless experimenter with reloading and usually improvements are relatively minor, but the 25.06 is one that has gone from "I'm selling this damn thing" to shooting very well with a bit of fiddling. I have an Encore, a Savage single shot and a Ruger 77V and each one benefited greatly from load experimentation - and none of them likes what the other does.

I like the 25.06 and the No1s of course, but I think the combination is quite a challenge to get to shoot well. If my POI were consistent - no wandering groups, no flyers - I'd figure a rifle or load tweak would work.

 

[picketpin]

Some things, vertically stringing, are pretty easy to work with/solve. Shifting point of impact and shot dispersion from shot to shot and be a couple of things. In the files section over on th #1 Site we have most of the "tricks" guys have used and recommended.

My 22PPC "V" was pretty easy to get to shot into the .5s. It took another 5 years to get the darned thing into the low .3s and finally win the class in our annual shoot. That was ALL load work.

I don't work that hard with hunting rifles MOA is fine and that's where I quit.

There are three or four pretty basic/standard things that most of us use to get there. After that, it's a LOT of tinkering. Which is why I love #1s. I can spend years and hundreds of hours in the reloading room getting in to the .3s or .5s for Varmint Rifles. I own LOTS of rifles. But I probably spend most of my time tinkering with and shooting #1s.

The best

RWT

 

[cclfn]

Some things, vertically stringing, are pretty easy to work with/solve. Shifting point of impact and shot dispersion from shot to shot and be a couple of things. In the files section over on th #1 Site we have most of the "tricks" guys have used and recommended.


The best

RWT

I hate to look old and senile but I don't see the #1 site in the index.
Wes

 

[cellar701]

Ross is referring to the Ruger #1 Group on the "Yahoo! Groups" website.

https://www.yahoo.com/

Click on Groups and I think you'll have to sign up for the group (Ruger #1) to get access. Then look for files on shooting and collecting to get the info on shooting and accurizing.