Had annual Dr visit….he sure pushed me towards RSV vaccine. I have lost my trust in CDC and big Pharmaceutical so very very reluctant. I’m 74, good health although lungs are where colds etc always land. What are your thoughts ?
RSV vaccine?
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Dunno about you, but speaking as a retired tradesman, I have come to believe that my doctor knows more about that sort of thing than I do...
I respect his opinion. If I had any concerns I would get second or third opinions from docs with other health management organizations.
There's a lotta poo out there on the internet...
YMMV...
I respect his opinion. If I had any concerns I would get second or third opinions from docs with other health management organizations.
There's a lotta poo out there on the internet...
YMMV...
protoolman
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I'm done with vaccines. Don't see any proof they are helping. Parents in their 90s survived 2 bouts of covid with no Ill effects. I took vacs and got it also. No bad effects either?
BearBiologist
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As a biologist, I reviewed articles (scientific, peer reviewed and in the "popular press") and got it. No aftereffects or side effects. Insurance covered it and they won't pat for anything that they don't benefit from. Wife had a sore arm for a few days but that was it.
The Preacher
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A lot of "poo" on the internet for sure but you can learn a few things too... medical data. Having said that, I no longer trust the CDC and big Pharma. The process as to how vaccines used to be developed is no longer being done and who knows what is in a "new" vaccine, what they're putting in your body, and how it will long term effect one's body. The facts are out there to be found. My doctor pushes everything. I politely decline. As they say; my body. my choice.
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I'm totally 'anti-vax' meaning NONE. When I was working and meeting the public FTF, I was tempted to get flu or whatever vax but didn't. My clerk working in the same setting got annual flu vaccinations and whatever else her Son who is an MD recommended. She got sick as often as I did.
Definitely unscientific but a worthy observation.
Back when I was running a lot of cattle the best plan for disease prevention was vaccinating ALL the animals in the herd. As long as ALL has similar preventative vaccinations, there wasn't any problem. Compare this to human 'herds' and this is not the case. IMHO that lowers the effectiveness of ANY vaccine. So, unless ALL the humans in a specific locality get vaccinated at the same time and NONE are allowed to leave or enter that locality, vaccinations are far less effective. Just my old farmer wisdom. :unsure:
Definitely unscientific but a worthy observation.
Back when I was running a lot of cattle the best plan for disease prevention was vaccinating ALL the animals in the herd. As long as ALL has similar preventative vaccinations, there wasn't any problem. Compare this to human 'herds' and this is not the case. IMHO that lowers the effectiveness of ANY vaccine. So, unless ALL the humans in a specific locality get vaccinated at the same time and NONE are allowed to leave or enter that locality, vaccinations are far less effective. Just my old farmer wisdom. :unsure:
I spent something like 35 years staying away from Doctors and such. I felt they were like chimney sweeps and always going to find something wrong ....... then early one evening my wife had to dial 911 on me... my perspective changed in just a little over one hour... actually 65 minutes. That was how long between the 911 operator answering the phone and my now cardiologist reporting the stint was in and the artery was back open. Now I pretty much listen to my doctors... seems they are a bit smarter than me. And I would much rather take their advise than all the advise given on the internet or life long politicians or a narcissistic a$$W00L .
Just my experience - got the flu real bad in 2008, so got the flu shot each year after until covid. Nothing bad to report.
I wasn’t going to get the covid shot, but spouse and I had to fly somewhere so needed the vax card. Got Moderna x2. Figured it was early enough that they hadn’t had time to engineer any hanky-panky into it. Ended up having minor chest pain during mild exertion shortly after the shots that cleared up after a couple of months. May or may not have been myocarditis. And I still get minor discomfort at the site of the shot occasionally.
I avoid all vaccines and flu shots now.
I wasn’t going to get the covid shot, but spouse and I had to fly somewhere so needed the vax card. Got Moderna x2. Figured it was early enough that they hadn’t had time to engineer any hanky-panky into it. Ended up having minor chest pain during mild exertion shortly after the shots that cleared up after a couple of months. May or may not have been myocarditis. And I still get minor discomfort at the site of the shot occasionally.
I avoid all vaccines and flu shots now.
gjgalligan
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Back in the 90s I got the flu shot every year and every year I would get sick and miss a week or more of work.
I quit getting the shot and have only had a couple of mild bouts with the flu since.
I know several people personally that got covid but the ONLY people that I knew personally that died from covid were people that had gotten the vaccine.
As Bill Engvall would say:
Here's your sign.
Big pharma is in the business of making money. If a medicine causes a side effect they are only too happy to sell you another drug to combat it.
Curing you only hurts their bottom line.
I quit getting the shot and have only had a couple of mild bouts with the flu since.
I know several people personally that got covid but the ONLY people that I knew personally that died from covid were people that had gotten the vaccine.
As Bill Engvall would say:
Here's your sign.
Big pharma is in the business of making money. If a medicine causes a side effect they are only too happy to sell you another drug to combat it.
Curing you only hurts their bottom line.
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Conversely, I haven't had a case of the flu since I started getting the shots! Since a single datum point is meaningless for analysis, neither of our anecdotes matter.
Got COVID shots and boosters as suggested. Caught COVID last spring and was down for 2 days, after an ER visit. Temp down and on my feet after 24 hrs.!!
And I am diabetic, have COPD, heart failure, & high BP. And am 73 yrs. old. HIgh risk? Yeah, I think so!
JackBull
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Doctors also know how to make money for themselves and big pharma.
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JackBull
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I can't speak for you but I'm not sure in 75 years vaccines have ever made a positive impact on my life but for over ten years maybe 20 with no cost VA healthcare I have not gotten a voluntary jab. A doc talked me into a Shingles vaccine but by the time I got to the VA I changed my mind and turned it down. Am I doing the right thing? I think so...that's all that counts for me.
DerekR
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My decisions are real simple for me. If my Doctor says do it, I do it. Period. I damn sure wouldn't decide otherwise based on something I read on the internet. I survived cancer thanks to God and my Oncologist. I ride with the pros on this one.
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Ever have shingles?? I did when I was 12= worst experience of my life (including one gunshot wound and a fractured vertebra in my neck and learning to walk again after I broke my kneecap twice)
The reason I decided not to get the shingles vaccine was because I had friends who had a couple of weeks of itching and discomfort from shingles, the reason I declined the vaccine was because one of them had previously had the shingles vaccine and got shingles anyway...why would I want to introduce something from big pharma into me that might make me ill?
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Par for the course. The vaccine is only 58% effective, if I remember right (?). But having a moderate case, I chose the 58% chance of not getting it!
A couple of years ago I found out how big pharma comes up with the statistical numbers on the effectiveness of the drugs they were selling...I can't remember at the moment the play on numbers but 58% usually means 2%...when I figure it out I will post it...
I had shingles when I was 32 years old. I had a job that only paid if I worked, 3 kids to feed, and the monthly bills required I keep going. Midsummer and when the sweat got into those sores it was seriously uncomfortable -BUT still wouldn't take the vax on the gamble that it MIGHT prevent another bout. ;)
“Real” vaccines that underwent actual testing over a period of years, like they used to be, I’ll take. These new MRNA vaccines-no thanks.
Especially if they attempt to coerce me.
Especially if they attempt to coerce me.
You know what you guys sound like.. me and my view on eating chicken... I ain't eating it... they keep telling me it's better for me and less fat and cheaper,... but in the end it is still just a nasty bird grown in a pin of sh#t.....
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One third of adults will get shingles and I know people that committed suicide because of the shingles pain. Suit yourself. I am sure when you were younger you got smallpox and polio vaccine. Consider yourself luck to have made it to 75. Vaccines made that possible.
If you had chicken pox as a kid you are infected with the shingles virus already. Shingles vaccine is to help keep it from activating. Some people are just so dumb about vaccines.
As for RSV, I had it with the flu vaccine at the same time and so did the wife. Both of us out of commission for a week. On the other hand, everyone seems to have a flu like illness now and both the wife and I are fine. Even the schools are closed.
Since I have COPD anything that may affect my breathing I take very seriously. So that said I have been given a flu shot, a COVID shot, and the RSV vaccine. On December 29 I ended up in Patient First (doctor on vacation). Tested negative for COVID but felt like 40 miles of bad road. Don't know what I had, flu or RSV, but whatever it was kicked my butt. Fever that would come and go, coughing up the bottom of the Chesapeake Bay, runny nose. Tylenol, juice (all kinds), and broth for days. It was three weeks before I got back to something I could call relatively normal. But, had I not had the shots would it have been worse or terminal? I'll take the shots!
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The Preacher
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Bottom line is we all do what we think is right for us personally. That will differ depending on what we believe to be true. We do our homework and make our choice.
OP
Indeed, and thanks to all for helping me do my research. As I have said before, a lot of experience and wisdom on this forum. I greatly appreciate this forum.
Xrayist
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I worked in the medical field for over 35 years, as an EMT or Radiology Tech. Saw maybe 4 cases of adult RSV in that time. Took care of hundreds and hundreds of babies/toddlers with RSV, so was continually exposed. Nothing said during my career about how it was so dangerous to adults. Made it through the first 8 months of Covid in 2020, but retired in August of that year. I was constantly exposed to it, both hands on with patients, in the air, in isolation rooms where they were being give breathing treatments, thus aerosolizing the Covid. The way our hospital handled it was something you might refer to as a word that starts with cluster and ends with uck, although that word might be too generous. I haven't got the RSV vaccination. It was mandatory to get the flu vaccine if you wanted to continue to work, but since there were some 600 strains, it was a WAG as to which vaccine to administer. More often than not, our institution missed on the proper one to give.
One other thing I would like opinions on, especially from our more seasoned members (old) is the peanut allergy. I remember going to grade school in the early 1960's and there were a bunch of peanut butter sandwiches eaten, candy with peanuts in it, and countless food items made with some sort of peanut product in it. I don't remember one person in all my schools in Colorado, Hawaii or Ohio ever having a reaction to anything. If it was like it is now, we would probably have had a 50% mortality rate among elementary school students. Just curious of your thoughts/opinions.
One other thing I would like opinions on, especially from our more seasoned members (old) is the peanut allergy. I remember going to grade school in the early 1960's and there were a bunch of peanut butter sandwiches eaten, candy with peanuts in it, and countless food items made with some sort of peanut product in it. I don't remember one person in all my schools in Colorado, Hawaii or Ohio ever having a reaction to anything. If it was like it is now, we would probably have had a 50% mortality rate among elementary school students. Just curious of your thoughts/opinions.
Good question Xrayist.... I'm the same, I grew up in the 60's and 70's and I don't remember anyone being allergic to anything other than one friend being allergic to work and he still is 50 years later.
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