Red dot? On MkIV.

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I just bought a MKIV .22/45 with a rail. I’m looking for recommendations on what to put on the rail. I’m totally ignorant about these modern sights. Your input is very much appreciated.

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I put a simple red dot on my standard MK-IV 22/45, the Red dot is from Dagger Defense. a great sight at a very inexpensive cost. I use it for bullseye competition and I do pretty good considering.
 

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+1 on the FastFire 3.
That said, there are MANY decent budget dot optics available. The P95 on my belt right now carries an ADE that has not required re-zero or battery replacement since initially installed 2 years ago.
 
+1 on the FastFire 3.
That said, there are MANY decent budget dot optics available. The P95 on my belt right now carries an ADE that has not required re-zero or battery replacement since initially installed 2 years ago.
I just bought a MKIV .22/45 with a rail. I'm looking for recommendations on what to put on the rail. I'm totally ignorant about these modern sights. Your input is very much appreciated.

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+1 on the FastFire 3.
That said, there are MANY decent budget dot optics available. The P95 on my belt right now carries an ADE that has not required re-zero or battery replacement since initially installed 2 years ago.
With that rail I used a small scope, another one I replaced rear sight with reddot mount, another a lobos low pro mount in place of the rail and + 2 on FF 3
 
I have a plain Jane MK111 22/45 with a VERY modest Weaver red dot.....and a hopped up MKIV 22/45 with a modest Bushnell red dot......I'm not going down range, using for self defense or serious competitions....just fun plinking and speed shooting steel plates so why break the bank?

The Weaver ($49.99 @ Wally World) has worked flawlessly for years......and the Bushnell ($100 Amazon) has been just fine.

Hmmm for some reason I can't post pics.....just posted a pic on a different thread now having a malfunction......stand by... 🙄
 
I’ve had good service from an UltraDot 25, since 1991. Original purchase price was about $160. It’s been a good purchase! 🤣

I also have a Burris FastFire III. Also been a good purchase. 👍

I find it easier to “find” the dot, in a tube-style dot sight, like the Utradot.

With my Burris FastFire III, I sometimes have to “search” for my dot. Nearly every time I’m “searching” for it, I need to point my muzzle down a little, to find the dot.
 
I chuckled at Uncle Howie saying he often had to hunt for the dot.
I see this often in USPSA competition.
It can be traced to how often a person’s grip slightly changed.
But it can also be due to how high the optic sits above the gun.
Watching a shooter hunt for the dot while the clock is ticking is usually due to the grip.
But if you study a person who is using a dot or open sights and even a scope, you can look at the position of the hands and see a good alignment when they are aligned.
Under the clock, often times people tend to point the muzzle upwards a little bit more.
A dot can assist in teaching a proper grip alignment because of the instant feedback.
 
I have found I'm quicker with a dot on a carbine. But on a pistol I'm quicker with iron sights. But on every pistol I have they have tall suppressor sights. On 1911s I have Bomars with a very narrow tall front sight. The key to irons is to be able to see around the sides of the front sight. But I have also shot so much unless I'm shooting at a distance I'm never aware of the sights. The next sights I'm going to try will be U shaped rear sight. They seem very quick in handling a gun but I haven't shot with one yet. Good thing about irons they're always on.
 
Been playing around with this for a couple of weeks now and couldn’t be happier. Dot is a Vortex Defender CCW with a 3 moa dot. I prefer a 2 moa dot but not enough of a difference with it to really matter. If I want more precision I will just put a scope on it.
 

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I have a very inexpensive TruGlow on my MKIII that I use in competition. I bought it many years ago before red dots were so prominent. It was inexpensive but has been 100% dependable and accurate and has multiple reticles and both green and red.

I also have two Romeo 5s on a carbine and a 10/22. Great sites if you like that style.

I just recently purchased a Holosun 507 Comp and absolutely love it. Have it on a Smith model 627. Nice big window and lots of options for sight picture.

MOA is important if you plan to shoot outside in the sun. I notice as my eyes get older, I use more of the options available especially in competition.
 
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