Real estate business

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These guys are getting pretty serious and/or pushy. We got an offer yesterday from a real estate investor for about 3/4 of our home place(doesn't include house and 80 acres). The offer was $1.4M which is maybe 2/3 of retail. Written sales contract included, just sign and return.
Not interested but maybe frame it and put it on the wall.
 
Out here on he market has slowed. Prices have dropped a tad. There are so many agents that they are getting really hungry. Part of the problem is over expectations by property owners.

A place near me was bought to be flipped. After a very extensive renovation it was on and off the market for two years. The flipper bought high, put in too much money and then wanted too much profit. During those two years he he market drop further and the flipper ended up selling to get out from under. They lost a lot of money.

Properties are still selling but agents are spending more time and making less money. I have always gotten offers to buy my home but lately it’s gotten so I get several daily. Oh, and those including a dollar amount are low even in this market.

Some of this is likely the targeting of older home owners. There was recently a report in which young people were saying part of the reason for high prices and low inventory are older home owners who won’t sell and move into apartments or condos. The complainers act as if it’s their right to buy homes and older folks are denying their due.
 
These guys are getting pretty serious and/or pushy. We got an offer yesterday from a real estate investor for about 3/4 of our home place(doesn't include house and 80 acres). The offer was $1.4M which is maybe 2/3 of retail. Written sales contract included, just sign and return.
Not interested but maybe frame it and put it on the wall.
Another way to look at the offer of 1.4MM Just how much profit do you make per year of farming those acres? Take the 1.4 and divide by the number of years you will live or how many more years you can work your ass off farming those acres. Ya still would have 80 acres to hobby farm and a place to live.

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I get letters & flyers in my mail wanting me to sell my property or my timber. I normally take a few moments to type out a return letter,, NAMING the person & the company in it. I tell them that I consider their unsolicited mail is harassment & I will file charges against them if I receive anything else from them. And I tell them in no uncertain terms how rude & inconsiderate they are.
I just mailed a letter out today to a RE Company in Ohio that I got yesterday.
I KNOW what my property is worth. I KNOW what my plans are for it. And I darn sure know Real Estate since my Dad, Mom, Brother, Sister, & Miss Penny were all Brokers. I grew up with my Dad having (3) businesses, and one of them; "Lake Lure Realty!"
I like telling them to go pound sand.
 
"Another way to look at the offer of 1.4MM Just how much profit do you make per year of farming those acres? Take the 1.4 and divide by the number of years you will live or how many more years you can work your ass off farming those acres. Ya still would have 80 acres to hobby farm and a place to live."
Sorry, no way would that work. Five generations on some of this land. Three generations on the rest.
 
I'm in Texas so the offers I get are way more than I think it's worth but I am not ready to move nor spend what it takes to get what I want elsewhere.
 
Kind of like when you read about folks winning the lottery... no one mentions that little line on the tax form called "Capital Gains". heck with the lottery, which has to be the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the public, they just take it out before you even get it.
 
Ah yes, capital gains. I know how much we paid for this and how much it has appreciated. All of the owned land is going into a trust as soon as paperwork is complete on Grouch Attack's inherited farm.
 
The first $250,000 of profit , for a single person
$500,000 for a couple isn't taxed when you sell your house. A friend sold a house last June at the peak of the market and paid nothing in taxes. It was one of two houses he owned. He was a real estate agent for 10 or so years.
Make more than that and either buy another house or pay some tax.
Commercial real estate is different , owner of a sports bar I know closed one location and sold that property for a $2,000,000 profit . He is going to buy real estate in FL for commercial purposes and will not have to pay taxes on the profit. That information came from him and his accountant who I've got to know over the last 20 years.
 
I see it the other way. I would like to buy a home near my relatives in Kentucky with some land to hunt on. I look at what is available and the pricing is crazy. For example, a home will be for sale for $300,000. and you look at the tax assessment for last year and the tax office says it is worth $90,000. I have never known tax collectors to underestimate anything and get less money than owed. Is the average person just slow enough to overlook this?
 
"I believe there are no capital gains taxes on real estate if you buy more property the same year."
Mostly correct. Has to be similar type land so just trading one piece of farm land for another-nothing to be gained in the downsizing plan.
 
Not familiar with selling one property and buying another to avoid capital gains the same year. You can avoid CG if you lived on the property for at least 2 of the last 5 years and you can use the $250,000/$500,000 rule to avoid quite a bit.
Just closed on a property last month that I lived in so no CG.

I have 2 more houses that will go on the market next month, that I never lived in. My goal is to run them through a 1031 exchange. And purchase a multifamily when they sell. That involves doing the paperwork before they close, then when they do close the money goes directly into a type of trust, I’ll have 45 days from the day of closing to identify the property I wish to purchase, and 180 days from the time of closing the original property, to close on the new property. By doing that I avoid capital gains and move up in the income I will get from the new property. It has to meet certain requirements which is pretty simple, but it’s a great way to create generational wealth, in my case that’s using the term loosely. You do have to spend every dollar of what you get or more which is pretty easy when you are moving up. It was built into tax laws for politicians to create generational wealth, it’s possible to repeat this over the years. You can sell residential property and buy commercial property as well.
 
We have been bugged by them for years on a couple of pieces of property...I guess they have to make a living too!
 
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