Problem Reloading 30 Carbine Cases

[Jimbo357mag]

Recently I bought 1000 primed 30 carbine cases from a wholesaler. Usually I try to buy American but these particular cases were from overseas, I believe southeast Asia. They load and shoot fine in my gun but I ran into a little problem when trying to reload them.

I like to share these little problems with you guys for some reason.

Seems the brass is a little too thick to length trim with my Lee Trimmer. The trim length stud won't go all the way into the case, even with a little neck flair. I'm going to have to turn down the diameter of the trim length stud before I can trim the brass to length after firing. I managed to load a few cases that didn't need trimming. When I put the bullet in the case it looks bulged. On the plus side, I bet this heavy brass will last a long time and it has great neck tension.

Don't you just hate it when you buy a bunch of components and something doesn't go exactly as planned? Sometimes you can change what you do a little or try something different to get the job done. Sometimes sharing a mistake can save others from making the same mistake. Maybe that's it?

 

[powder smoke]

Reloading for me is enjoyable also saves lots of money! I never buy anything outside the US All American components never had that kinda problem. Military cases can have thicker case walls. They may have an origin in the US. What does the head stamp look like? Good luck.I also shy away from imported ammo not worth the saving imo. ps

 

[Jimbo357mag]

The manufacturer of the brass is Armscor. They use several different head stamps. The one on my cases is ( A USA ). This is what I found out about them:

http://www.armscor.com.ph/

Armscor is the largest arms and ammunition manufacturer in SouthEast Asia. They are an ISO 9001 Certified Company.

Arms Corporation of the Philippines, Parang, Marikina City, Metro Manila, 1800 Republic of the Philippines (formally Squires Bingham Co.-see SB)

 

[Donaldjr1969]

I had the same problem when I bought a bag of one hundred .500 S&W cases to load. The brand was Magtech as both Midway and MidSouth were out of Starline cases. When I used my lathe style case trimmer, the pilot all but did not want to go into the case. I used a tiny bit of oil to coax it and even then, it was a bear to remove the trimmer head. Indeed, a Starline case that I found at the range floor required far less effort to insert and remove the trimmer pilot. So I turned down the pilot by a few thousandths and all was well. Comparing the two cases, the Magtech brass is indeed thicker than the Starline by a couple thousandths. But I was careful not to take too much off the pilot. It still is decently snug in the Starline case. I've also noticed that there is more sizing effort with the Magtech brass. In fact, I even put a teeny bit of wax on the cases despite using carbide dies. Makes for a world of difference.

But as you too noticed Jimbo, these Magtech cases have great neck tension. Even with my barnburner loads in the 500, I have not had a problem with crimp jumping.

 

[pbslinger]

I don't mess with dodgy brass if I don't have to.

 

[Precision32]

For 30 Carbine I trim before sizing.

 

[jeffnles1]

Jimbo,
I had some of the same problemswith Remington brass in 30 carbine too.

All but a few of them were under max length so I just loaded them and after firing, I deprimed without resizing. The Lee trimmer stud went in just fine.

May be worth just loading them if they're not over length and shooting. It should work after that unless your carbine has a really tight chamber. I've found most GI issue carbines rather "generous" in the chamber dimensions. My Blackhawk in 30 carbine is also somewhat generous.

Jeff

 

[loaded round]

Armscor brass in all calibers are POS. I would suggest you scrap it all and buy some Remington or Winchester brass. Check the varous online stores, you may luck out and find some G.I. brass.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Armscor brass in all calibers are POS. I would suggest you scrap it all and buy some Remington or Winchester brass. Check the varous online stores, you may luck out and find some G.I. brass.

Well I'm not going to 'scrap' it but I will segregate it and keep a good eye on it to be sure it is working ok and I don't think I will be buying any more.

Thanks for all the replies.