Greebe
Single-Sixer
LAter
paper
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I haven't researched this at all,but every time I read about it I think I should really try this as well. Those p-patched bullets look as good as any I've seen... not that I've seen to many.
You might check in over at cast boolits with the resident paper patchers. Looks to me like you're on the way to match grade paper jacketed bullets like ol' Quigley Down Under. 8)
You might check in over at cast boolits with the resident paper patchers. Looks to me like you're on the way to match grade paper jacketed bullets like ol' Quigley Down Under. 8)
Bayouhunter
Single-Sixer
Greebe will be looking forward to your report. Sounds interesting I have a #1 in45-70 also use it occasionally.
captainkirk
Blackhawk
I have never paper patched, but it sounds interesting. I, too enjoyed Mr. Matthews book. Not knowing how old the rifle is, it could have the larger throat that these .4615 bullets might work very well in. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be too large for my 458 (81 vintage). Good luck with your efforts, and let us know how they shoot.
captainkirk
captainkirk
OP
Greebe
Single-Sixer
I got the rifle yesterday afternoon. Had to take off work for an hour or so, but it was worth it. Overall it looks new and has some nice grain in the stock. There are a few things I am going to do to it and I will start a new post for that in the rifle section. Anyways here is a picture.
Greebe
Greebe
M'BOGO
Buckeye
Expressed my No. 1 desire to one of my dad's cousins several years ago, before he passed away, who was also a looney. He said not to waste my time, they will break your heart. Shot a couple over the summer, and they didn't, and hope that doesn't break yours, it is beautiful.
OP
Greebe
Single-Sixer
good deal
M'BOGO
Buckeye
Saw the other post, and am going to watch for the results, nice work on the bead too.
OP
Greebe
Single-Sixer
Cool. I want to shoot the paper patched bullets I made, but I probably should slug the bore first and make sure that the patched bullet is not to big. Seems like with a pure lead bullet it would swage down just fine when firing. Most people are getting their bullets around .460 - .461" or so after patching. I would hate to get an over pressure though. Most likely all that would happen is excessive leading, but I am not sure.
I will let you know what happens.
Greebe
I will let you know what happens.
Greebe
Castboolits.com has a section devoted to paper patching. Looks like you're having fun Greebe LOL
gramps
gramps
Back when I was shooting BPCR, I tried PP bullets in my 45-70 Pedersoli Sharps.
I was using a smooth sided (no grease grooves) 520gr soft lead round nosed bullet sized to .449. Without the patching, the bullet would just slide through the bore leaving only a few shiny spots where it came in contact with the lands. I put one wrap of paper around the bullet. This brought the OD of the bullet to about .458-.459.
I shot this over 63gr 3Fg Goex black powder and standard large rifle primers.
I don't have my notes in front of me but if memory serves me correctly, the MV was about 1150fps. Out to 500M, this was very accurate. Out of my Sharps rifle shooting prone over cross sticks with vernier type iron sights, I could hold about a 5.5" group at 500M. With a scope and shooting off a bench with sand bags, it may have done a little better.
To be honest, I switched back to regular grease groove bullets. I could hold about a 6-6.5" group with the grease groove bullets. For shooting silhouettes, that is plenty accurate enough and the grease grove bullets with a custom blend of bees wax, crisco shortening and olive oil, the fouling was much more managable. I had to swab every shot with paper patch and could get through a set (10 rounds) without swabbing in the grease groove bullets.
I know black powder is a different animal than what you're doing and the rifling in the Sharps style rifles may be a bit different. But it was a fun experiment that worked for several matches.
Jeff
I was using a smooth sided (no grease grooves) 520gr soft lead round nosed bullet sized to .449. Without the patching, the bullet would just slide through the bore leaving only a few shiny spots where it came in contact with the lands. I put one wrap of paper around the bullet. This brought the OD of the bullet to about .458-.459.
I shot this over 63gr 3Fg Goex black powder and standard large rifle primers.
I don't have my notes in front of me but if memory serves me correctly, the MV was about 1150fps. Out to 500M, this was very accurate. Out of my Sharps rifle shooting prone over cross sticks with vernier type iron sights, I could hold about a 5.5" group at 500M. With a scope and shooting off a bench with sand bags, it may have done a little better.
To be honest, I switched back to regular grease groove bullets. I could hold about a 6-6.5" group with the grease groove bullets. For shooting silhouettes, that is plenty accurate enough and the grease grove bullets with a custom blend of bees wax, crisco shortening and olive oil, the fouling was much more managable. I had to swab every shot with paper patch and could get through a set (10 rounds) without swabbing in the grease groove bullets.
I know black powder is a different animal than what you're doing and the rifling in the Sharps style rifles may be a bit different. But it was a fun experiment that worked for several matches.
Jeff
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