OPDIVO drug advertising

[blume357]

I've been watching reruns of the British Top Gear program on BBCA and they keep running this Opdivo add.... this is some drug it seems is doing trials for folks that have lung problems and other options have not worked.... Great visuals of families having fun and they say, "Who would not want to live longer?" then they also say that by taking this drug it could:

"Attack normal organs and tissues and effect how they work during or after the treatment has ended and can lead to death.

And, see your doctor right away if you experience:

New or worsening cough, chest pain, shortness of breath, diarrhea, severe stomach pain or tenderness, severe nausea or vomiting, extreme fatigue, constipation, excessive thirst or urine, swollen ankles, loss of appetite, rash or itching, head aches, confusion, hallucinations, muscle or joint pain, flushing - fever or weakness.... "

and the end with "who would not want to live longer?"

if it does even a tenth of those things listed.... well I think y'all will see my point.

 

[gramps]

Read the side effects of ANY drug. Much the same.
gramps

 

[Jimbo357mag]

More disturbing than that I have heard recently that private medical groups are offering treatments that are not proven to cure or even improve medical conditions and are not covered by insurance to people that are desperate, like dying from cancer.

https://www.asgct.org/education/disease-treatments

 

[Fox Mike]

Just for S&G I checked one of my solutions I use in my nebulizer. The "how to" and "warning" sheet is printed in font that is about this size (actually a wee bit smaller). The sheet of paper it is written on is 16" x 22" and is printed, in English, in six columns,on both sides. Needless to say I have never read the entire sheet.

 

[Colonialgirl]

Just for S&G I checked one of my solutions I use in my nebulizer. The "how to" and "warning" sheet is printed in font that is about this size (actually a wee bit smaller). The sheet of paper it is written on is 16" x 22" and is printed, in English, in six columns,on both sides. Needless to say I have never read the entire sheet.

Right there with you Mike; Plus its all in legalese gobbledygook idiocy that would need a supreme court justice to translate (One of the conservative ones, not the Obama appointees). It's a perfect example of CYA so they cant be sued no matter WHAT happens to you.

 

[ronto]

My dentist prescribed an antibiotic for an abscess. I went to get it filled and told the pharmacist I want to see the side effects printout. He said he can't show it to me unless I get it filled. I told him go ahead and fill it. I read the side effects one of which was "has caused total blindness". When it came time to pay I told him "keep it" and went to a different dentist.

 

[Conservative]

Well, you couldn't gotten a drug that only causes you to wear glasses...

 

[pharmer]

Having worked (in the past) almost a decade in "big pharma", during clinical trials if an adverse event happens ONCE in a million it must be listed on the package insert (you know, that giant piece of paper with incredibly small script on it, folded 50 times and squeezed in the box with the bottle of pills). They're reading a small portion of it in ads. Joe

 

[akbluz]

What "kills" me are these pharmaceutical ads that come on at supper time and say "tell your doctor you want these".... while quickly mumbling through all the side effects. If my doctor isn't smart enough to know about this stuff already, maybe he needs to start watching tv at mealtime.

 

[pisgah]

What they DON'T say - patients taking Opdivo live an average of 90 days longer than those on conventional chemo. Worth it? Well, only the patient can decide, but -- the initial treatment costs $150,000, and monthly treatment thereafter is $14,000. And over half of patients develop serious side effects.

 

[caryc]

When my sister was diagnosed with terminal cancer she denied all the treatments that would supposedly have given her a few months more. She said, no, I'm not going through all that crap. Towards the end, we said our good byes and I told the doctor to just keep her doped up till the end when she was no longer coherent. This or course, was her wish also.

 

[arfmel]

Remember some years back when Lay's offered potato chips that weren't fattening but they could cause anal leakage? Not that good a trade-off.

 

[Conservative]

caryc,

My sister when diagnosed with lung cancer chose that route only to be talked into chemo, surgery, radiation by her oncologist and as a result died miserably.

Me, I've already had cancer. I'm and have been in remission for quite some time, but I've made it known to my wife once it crops up again (as I expect it to) I will follow your sister's route.

No chemo, no surgery, no radiation.

My sister let her doctors talk her into what she didn't want - it won't happen to me.

My only wish is to die at home in peace with plenty'o palliatives.

 

[toysoldier]

Remember some years back when Lay's offered potato chips that weren't fattening but they could cause anal leakage? Not that good a trade-off.

Then there's sugar-free Gummi Bears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2qxwpMpVGI

The local grocery chain offers a sugar-free apple pie that works the same. Delicious, but deadly.

 

[gramps]

Read the labels! Xylitol, and sorbitol is sweet, and it is effective as an laxative-dose related! In other words, one or two gummy bears are ok. Ten plus, ha, ha, ha!
gramps

 

[caryc]

caryc,

My sister when diagnosed with lung cancer chose that route only to be talked into chemo, surgery, radiation by her oncologist and as a result died miserably.

Me, I've already had cancer. I'm and have been in remission for quite some time, but I've made it known to my wife once it crops up again (as I expect it to) I will follow your sister's route.

No chemo, no surgery, no radiation.

My sister let her doctors talk her into what she didn't want - it won't happen to me.

My only wish is to die at home in peace with plenty'o palliatives.

Yep, me too. Once you reach the age of senior citizen what's the point of a couple more months spent in misery?

 

[blackhawknj]

On those rare occasions when I watch TV it seems the majority of advertising is by Big Pharma, touting the latest magic potion or nostrum, the newest cure-all.

 

[toysoldier]

An aspect of the big money/pharmacy problem is the shortage of commonly-used drugs. Some of the basic drugs used for surgical anesthesia, as well as antibiotics and others, are often in short supply, because they are GENERIC. Generic drugs don't have a huge profit margin, so companies divert production facilities to newer, more profitable drugs. A group of non-profit hospitals recently go together to set up a non-profit company to manufacture some of these generics.