No. 1 and No.3 help

[collectormzornes]

Does anyone know the barrel diameter of a standard barrel 25-06 in No.1 and the barrel diameter of a 45/70 in a No.3 want to see if I can open up the forearm of the 25-06 to fit the 45/70. Thanks for all the help.

 

[four70nitro]

If I understand your question, you should be able to use the 1-B forearm on and No. 3 chambered in 45-70. My experience is that the 1-B forearm will leave a bit of gap-osis around the 45-70 barrel in a couple of spots but will not require any additional wood to be removed.

Dave

 

[picketpin]

Sort of. We've made our fair share of #2s. The basic answer is yes you can do it. THe issue is that the two barrels are not only different diameters BUT they also taper differently along their entire length.

The critical issue for you is the channel of the forearm. Here's what I get.

Barrels:

#1 at the reciver 1.195, at the mid point of the forearm, 7 1/2" from the reciever it's .864 at the last place it touches the forearm, 13 1/8 inches ahead of the reciever it's .779.

The #3 barrel is .1.116 at the reciever, .856 at the mid point of the forearm (#1) and .774. The #3 barrel also tapers much more slowly from the revier than the #1.

Essentually if you are installing a Semi Beavertail forearm off a #1 onto a factory #3 with the factory barrel, there will be a gap around the barrel within about 3 inches of the reciever. After that you need to open up the forearm channel to make the #3 barrel fit.

While we usually don't leave #3 barrel on them and usually either use a custom barrel or a factory #1 barrel on the #3 action we have left one or two as #3s. To make it look corect we simply wrapped the barrel at the reciver in tape and filled with ACCRAglas dyed brown and then just relieved the channel from that point on.

It's really pretty easy and straight forward

RWT

 

[collectormzornes]

I want to make sure you all understand the question I am asking correctly so I am going to ask it again in a different way. I want to take a forearm from a standard model #1 that is a 25-06 and make it work on a #3 that is 45/70 is this possible? If this is the way you understood the question then you have answered it for me and Thank you. If this is different then what you thought then do you have an idea if this is possible? Sorry for asking so much but I want to be sure before I shell out the cash for the stock set. Thanks again.

 

[Saltwatershooter]

Here is a photo of what Ross was talking about.

 

[picketpin]

Okay, here's how I understand what you are saying: You are going to remove the factory wood from a #3. You intend to replace it with factory or otherwise #1 wood or at least the forearm. You are going to leave the #3 action and barrel intact. Correct so far???

If so then the above information is correct. As to the factory barrels.
A #3 barrel is a #3 barrel. I don't have a 45-70 handy but I see nothing in the catalogs that indicates the 45-70 barrel has any different barrel diameter OD than any other #3 barrel. Same thing with #1 barrels. The "S" (45-70) barrel is the same as a "B" barrel except for the rib and sights. So a #1 "B" barel is the same regardless of caliber, hence the forearm channels..

The only 45-70 barrel that is heavier is the "H" barrel but there are only 40 or so of those.

???

Ross

 

[collectormzornes]

Sounds great guys thanks for all the help, sorry to have been such a pain but like I said I wanted to make sure I knew what I would be getting into before shelling out the cash. Thanks again.

 

[four70nitro]

Frankly the buttstock is all you will need. It will really change the feel of the rifle when shooting it with heavy loads. If you want to put the forearm on you certainly can, but it does little if anything to change the way the rifle feels when you shoot it, and I think the 1-B forearm looks a little awkward on a No. 3, but that is simply my opinion -- you do what you want to with your rifle!

Dave

 

[tacotime]

Say, are those Ruger bases mounted on the #3, or some other brand? If so, were they made for the #3, or borrowed from a #1?

If they are Ruger for the #3, I wonder if they are still available?

Thanks.

 

[DavidMc116]

Say, are those Ruger bases mounted on the #3, or some other brand? If so, were they made for the #3, or borrowed from a #1?
If they are Ruger for the #3, I wonder if they are still available?

Good Question? I know what you're thinking! Extended Ruger #1 rings on a Ruger #3??[/list][/quote]

 

[gewehrfreund]

Yes, they are Ruger bases. They should still be available from Ruger, various auction sites, your local gun shops/shows, or some of the larger parts suppliers.
Just be sure you get #3 bases and not 1V bases. They look similar, but obviously they are different since the rifles have different barrel contours.
LC

 

[DavidMc116]

Does anyone know a part number for the #3 bases?

 

[picketpin]

I got a set of #3 Ruger blocks years ago buy accident. I Nevr knew they existed and spent a ton of time coming up with rings, of to different maqnufacturer and hieght to make the scope work. Wasn't till years later when I sold it that the guy that bought it pointed out I had used #3 blocks on the #1.

I'd jst call Ruger and see if they still have any on hand.

Ross

 

[DavidMc116]

That's actually pretty funny!