Nice guy but ??????

[transplant]

My wife's brother-in-law is a really nice guy but either has no common sense or no clue on certain things. He's an electrician and a pretty good one by all the folks who hire him by word of mouth. Some of the things he's done. Ran a tractor for years never changing or checking the oil till motor seizes up. Snowblower drive chain or belt breaks, lets it sit 3 years meantime shovels 200ft driveway. Never had cut a tree down before, first one hits his daughter's car. And many other things. This last one has me and my son really worried/wondering. He's never owned a handgun before, don't know if he's ever fired on. Well he knows I like handguns so when I tell him I was looking to get a small concealed carry pistol he goes and buys a Sig p365. Two months later I asked him how he likes it, he tells me he hasn't shot it yet! Fast forward another 2 months to mothers day get together in MA. He calls me over to his truck and shows me a Beretta 92 he just bought. Still hasn't shot the p365 but carries it when he walks his dog in MA where he doesn't have a permit to do so! He lives in CT and took the classes and acquired CT's carry permit. I try to tell him nicely everything I think he's doing wrong and he just shrugs and rolls his eyes! At that point I hand him the Beretta, say nice gun and walk away. This bothered me so much I had post it here.

 

[Kevin]

So he’s got a CT carry permit. Wouldn’t he have had to shoot the gun to qualify for the permit? And show basic gun knowledge?

 

[RoninPA]

So he’s got a CT carry permit. Wouldn’t he have had to shoot the gun to qualify for the permit? And show basic gun knowledge?

Not necessarily, not all states require a person to show firearm knowledge or proficiency to get a carry permit. In PA, the county Sheriff is who issues the LTCF (License To Carry Firearms) and all one has to do is be able to pass a background check and be of good moral character (very subjective depending on the political musing of the Sheriff). Also, in PA the carry permit does not list the firearm you want to carry like a lot of states, nor do they limit you to only one firearm. Note the last word in LTCF, if you want to carry 3 firearms concealed you are allowed to.

 

[woodsy]

CT requires range time with the instructor before the local town gives the temporary permit. Then the state issues its permit no more than weeks later. The state permit lasts five years. New pic for every renewal. No reciprocity for other states' permits allowed. But, many other states do recognize CT's. (Probably because it's so difficult to get the CT one.)

 

[bobsyouruncle]

I got my CWCP 25 years ago I applied, got the background check, DD214,. The reason for me was the commonality of my name.

 

[Snake45]

I feel your pain. Last week at a family party, my daughter (who lives in another state) demanded I GIVE her a gun. She ranted on for a while and then, when I was completely unmoved, she said "PLEASE!"

I told her, "Right there is exactly your problem. You've said 'GIVE ME' at least nine times in the last two minutes and are just now getting around to throwing a 'please' in there, and I haven't heard a question mark anywhere YET." I told her to go get some training, and THEN, MAYBE, we'd talk about what I have that might work for her. (She can HANDLE my stuff to see what fits her hand, but I'm not giving or supplying her with anything--she'll have to buy her own, legally, in her own state.) Then she asked if I'd train her. Nope, not gonna do it. Usually not a good idea for family members to train each other, as I learned when I failed to teach her mother to parallel park after many hours of trying over 30 years ago. I made her go get instruction from a professional driving teacher (coincidentally, the same man who taught me Drivers Ed in high school 20 years before that), and once she started PAYING for the instruction, by the hour and out of her own pocket, she actually paid attention and LEARNED to park and had her first driver's license in just a week or two.

I figger the same principle should work with my daughter. She doesn't even know what she doesn't know about the awesome responsibility of gun ownership. If she's serious enough about it to arrange training and pay for it herself, she'll actually learn something. THEN we'll talk. I told her to get a tazer or some bear spray until then.

 

[transplant]

That's right, my bad. I forgot he had to at least shoot a handgun or guns with his instructor. I use to live in CT and my LTC just expired last year. I didn't get an out of state for CT cause its a yearly permit and we rarely go back to CT. I'll ask him which gun or guns he got to shoot with his instructor. Mine had a 44mag model 29 smith to a Ruger 22 Mark ll(?) with a bull barrel.

 

[Colonialgirl]

I got my CWCP 25 years ago I applied, got the background check, DD214,. The reason for me was the commonality of my name.

The DD-214 worked for me here in Fla.

 

[XP100]

Got my pistol license in NY in 1991. Took a little ove r9 months, No training at all. Had Limited to hunting & target shooting in th ecounty I was in. Got that removed when I opened my Gun shop in the country after about 8 or 10 letters to the Judge. Moved to Fl. took the class and applied for CWP. Had it exactly 7 days later in th email. None of th ehandguns have to be listed on it unlike NY. OH to live in a free state.

 

[BearBiologist]

Permit requirements vary greatly. I have WA permit, OR permit, and UT non-resident permit. UT required an 8 hour class; OR an on-line class; and WA no requirements. OR permit does not say it's a non-resident; UT does.

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Years ago when i got my permit, with years of training and use, hunting, military, etc I thought I could teach a class. I soon realized I know nothing about law-enforcement or the rules other than common sense and what a reasonable person should do. This might be a good place for those in the know to lay out what they feel is needed to know about concealed carry, anyone

 

[Yaworski]

Back when I initially got my LTCF, I had to get a letter from my local police chief stating that I was not a known troublemaker. I had to supply a couple photos but no prints. No training requirement. The processing, including checks, took about two months.

Now that they use the insta-check system, my daughter's LTCF took about five minutes.

 

[blume357]

Just my opinion, most of these qualification test to get a permit are a total joke... at least the one here in S.C. that I took back on 2005 was... if I could not hit a life size silhouette center mass from 5-15ft with 50 rounds the majority of the time.... instructor could not score mine because the last 20 or 30 I was just putting through the 3" hole I had made in the center.

My suggestion is you try and plant a seed in the guys head but then just leave it alone.... "if one is going to carry a gun then they not only need training they need to keep that training up yearly." Someone on the forum post that directed at me specifically about 10 or 12 years ago.... and I took it to heart.

 

[bobsyouruncle]

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