New York MikkiD's 'axe attack'

[Mobuck]

I was sitting in Burger King when this video was run on the big screen on the back wall of the eating area. I looked around at the tables occupied by construction workers and farmers and thought "Bet this would have gone differently here". One of the construction guys commented "Good thing he didn't try that 'crap' here". Lots of grins and chuckles and back to the burgers. Now, I see that this 'DUDE' was released w/o bond.
Different worlds NY & MO.

 

[fiasconva]

I'm sure lots of people that saw that video said that. But if they were actually confronted with that situation what would they really have done?

 

[Cholo]

Well, I know what I wouldn't have done! I wouldn't have just sat that that table in the rear with my girlfriend while he was swinging that hatchet! And I wouldn't have hidden behind my girlfriend like the p**** on the left while she protected him. That's what I wouldn't have done.

What would I have done? Gotten myself and whoever I was with the hell outta there ASAP as soon as the fist fight started. I never would have even seen the hatchet.

2:16

 

[blume357]

Somebody should have taken him down with a chair while he was in the woman's face for over a minute.

As for me I would have given him one loud verbal warning and then dropped him like a hot potato......

 

[Mobuck]

Keep in mind the guys making the comments I heard weren't a bunch of pansies wearing gym shorts and flip flops.

 

[Mike J]

Well, I know what I wouldn't have done! I wouldn't have just sat that that table in the rear with my girlfriend while he was swinging that hatchet! And I wouldn't have hidden behind my girlfriend like the p**** on the left while she protected him. That's what I wouldn't have done.

What would I have done? Gotten myself and whoever I was with the hell outta there ASAP as soon as the fist fight started. I never would have even seen the hatchet.

2:16

Avoidance is an effective tactic. If a confrontation can't be avoided it is necessary to make sure you have the capability to protect yourself if necessary.

 

[Mobuck]

"Avoidance is an effective tactic."
While this IS true, modern society has been taught to 'run away from danger' rather than face the threat and neutralize it. In our current upside down justice system and litigious society, we're taught to run away rather than stand up and face the threat. It is an inalienable human right to protect oneself against any/all threats.
Dad taught me to not run away from something that isn't a serious threat and don't turn your back on a serious threat. His words "You'll get hurt running away from something that wasn't going to hurt you". We've all heard the advice of 'Don't run from a predator' correct?

 

[contender]

My karate instructor long ago taught me that my legs were my best weapon,,,, run like hell. He stressed that karate was for defense,, & not offense. Yet,, he also said that if physical confrontation was required,, use the least amount of force to stop it as quickly as possible. Stop someone before hurting someone. Hurt someone before being hurt. Maim someone before being maimed. And kill before being killed.

That said,, watching this video,, the hatchet guy may have been verbally threatening folks,, but he only smashed property. Using deadly force,, (shooting him) most likely would have gotten you prosecuted for excessive use of deadly force. You'd spend a lot of money trying to prove that you felt he was threatening the lives of people. Lots of video going on, and all of that would be used by a liberal minded prosecutor to nail you. ESPECIALLY if there was a difference in race. (Thug is black, I'm white.)

And the people standing around watching & not evading is another thing that would be used to prosecute you because the people didn't feel threatened.

That said,, if I'd been there,, and he pulled that hatchet,, I would have tried to physically take him out w/o the use of my firearm if at all possible. A solid kick to his knee would put him on the floor. When he went down, take away the hatchet. Stop the threat. And if you had a firearm, AND showed restraint it would play in your favor in the justice system.
But it's still NY. And the potential for you to get charged with a crime exists.

Here in NC,, depending upon the county it could be as bad as NYC,, or you would be getting "atta boys" for stopping the hatchet guy.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Keeping in mind this was NYC , the odds are low that any of the diners would have been able to shoot back , McD " chairs " are fixed to the tables , bringing a napkin dispenser to an Axe Fight isn"t a good plan A ..

 

[Diabloman]

Me.....I'd SHOOT......! fwiw

 

[fiasconva]

Looks like he's already been arrested again. Surprise!

 

[Cholo]

...and released without bail--again.