New SS SBH cylinder Front to back movement on base pin?

[George]

Hello!
I have a new SS Lipseys Ruger SBH .44mag. and wonder how much movement is ok in a new gun? My cylinder moves from front to back a bit. I didn't use a feeler in there yet. My head space is about .004" end shake I can just feel a tad.. Lockup is good timming seems fine.. Could I have a under sized base pin causeing this? I only checked this after I got a New Lipseys Single six last week and seen how well and tight that gun was fit.. That gun is tight as a drum in every way, Best factory gun I got so far.. george

 

[Salmoneye]

Is this while at rest, or under full lockup?

Make sure the gun is unloaded...

Then cock the hammer, and with your thumb on the hammer, pull the trigger and let the hammer down on an empty chamber, keeping the trigger pulled rearward...

Is the movement still there?

 

[rugerguy]

they are all different, some are looser than others, , bottom line is does it shoot? is it accurate? cylinder does NOT rub up against the rear of the barrel?, or too far forward, and you get misfires? Revolvers need to have a bit of play to make and help things work...if you want it that tight, line bored and all the goodies done to a custom gun, then go that route, manufactured ( en masse) needs , to fit and allow variations,look at any drawing ( blue print) and you will see +/- .002 " and figure the math, even though in tolerance, you get one part that is .002 over , against a part that is .002 under, now you get a larger gap....nature of manufacturing, and keeping the product "affordable"..................old timer told us years if too loose, use thicker grease, keep it fresh.
if its broke, does not work, then exercise your warranty, but do not be surprised if they tell you "it falls within specs".............. 8)
"products, made BY people , for other people........" hope it ain;t a late friday gun, or on the other hand made first thing Monday morning...been there, seen and re-done that.......... :roll:
we've had them come in the shop that actually went clunk, cluck, back and forth, best shooting guns at times.... :wink:

 

[George]

Salmoneye, I did it was at rest not under full lockup!

Ok I did as you said and after cocking the hammer keeping my finger on the trigger letting the hammer down while holding the trigger all the way back. I have little to no front to back movement with the cyinder! I don't understand how this makes it nice and tight? So it's ok then?

Is this while at rest, or under full lockup?

Make sure the gun is unloaded...

Then cock the hammer, and with your thumb on the hammer, pull the trigger and let the hammer down on an empty chamber, keeping the trigger pulled rearward...

Is the movement still there?

 

[George]

rugerguy, Maybe I was not checking it right.. I checked it as Salmoneye asked me to do and it's nice and tight that way. Other then what I thought was a lose cyinder the guns fit and finish is great and I'm a fussy SOB to the point of OCD with stuff like this..It may may be ok.. Will see what Salmoneye has to say.. George

they are all different, some are looser than others, , bottom line is does it shoot? is it accurate? cylinder does NOT rub up against the rear of the barrel?, or too far forward, and you get misfires? Revolvers need to have a bit of play to make and help things work...if you want it that tight, line bored and all the goodies done to a custom gun, then go that route, manufactured ( en masse) needs , to fit and allow variations,look at any drawing ( blue print) and you will see +/- .002 " and figure the math, even though in tolerance, you get one part that is .002 over , against a part that is .002 under, now you get a larger gap....nature of manufacturing, and keeping the product "affordable"..................old timer told us years if too loose, use thicker grease, keep it fresh.
if its broke, does not work, then exercise your warranty, but do not be surprised if they tell you "it falls within specs".............. 8)
"products, made BY people , for other people........" hope it ain;t a late friday gun, or on the other hand made first thing Monday morning...been there, seen and re-done that.......... :roll:
we've had them come in the shop that actually went clunk, cluck, back and forth, best shooting guns at times.... :wink:

 

[Salmoneye]

As pointed out, a little loose is not always a bad thing...

As you found out, most of the play disappears when at full lockup, so don't stress...

Shoot it, and enjoy!

 

[Rclark]

Shoot it, and enjoy!

Concur!

 

[George]

Thank you guy's! I just wanted to make sure it was ok. Or should I say as it should be.. I can now realx and just enjoy! I been out of S/A guns for about 35 years. I thought I would get back into them. So I got the two of them that I think go well togather.. I just love them. I have always Love Ruger single action guns.. Had a Single Six Conv. back in 1979 when I was in my early 20's learned how to shoot well with it and slod it after about 4 years. Kicked myself ever since.. George

 

[rugerguy]

bottom line is as 'salmoneye' noted above, that is when the cylinder is at its tightest point, I like to think or call the cylinder assembly when it is in a NON battery (lockup) it is like it's in "neutral",,,as we said, some play is needed when the gun actually fires and the bullet "jumps" from the cylinder ( chamber) into the forcing cone, and has to wiggle its way into and down the barrel, very "simplistic",,,,,,,thus forcing cones, angles, barrel diameter and on and all takes place, the bullet is going from "interior ballistics, to exterior ballistics, on it way ( journey) to 'terminal' ballistics..........whew 8)
they teach college courses on all this, save the math for them!! :wink:

( besides "how much" play is very subjective) :roll:

Good luck, shoot it and enjoy it, as they say "practice, practice, practice...." :)