New Army PT test

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This is the new Army PT test. It is no longer scored 'age specific'. Video is about 15 minutes. Very interesting.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/09/15/some-soldiers-new-tougher-army-fitness-test-jarring-wake-call.html?ESRC=eb_180917.nl
 
If I'm reading it correctly, it removes gender specific scoring also.....

"When Army leaders announced that the ACFT would do away with gender and age scoring, "it kind of gave a wake-up call to everybody," McGurk said."

.......if that is factual, I wonder how long till the lawsuits begin?
 
I maxxed a PT test once, and it was a trial to do that; it pushed me to my limits, and I was about 40 when I did that.
With PU, SU and a 2 mile run, it was pretty basic stuff; that new test looks like garbage, and it looks suspect to me, what is it testing?
The dead lift seems OK, but......? And if that is a picture of the new and improved 101st Airborne, then all is lost, because that is a bunch of doughnut eating hombres.
https://www.military.com/daily-news...test-jarring-wake-call.html?ESRC=eb_180917.nl
 
No Army or service related PT here for me, but...

In the mid 1980s, I was hired by the local PD. Went to the academy on their $ and survived.

But most cadets had goals to reach with almost every move they made in order to succeed and pass. There was also a standard that if you were in a certain grouping, all you had to do is try the exercise and you were scored "passed"....or some nonsense. There were a lot in the "certain group".

Oh well
 
My guess is they are going to loose a lot of people the first year. Switching in midstream is a little crazy. Most platoons to PT regularly, but it sure isn't what this new test requires. Seems to be a little slight of hand.
 
What kind of costumes were those men wearing? Short pants, tennis shoes and T-Shirts????

We did our PT in combat boots and steel helmets.







In the mud.


Bob Wright
 
Every time I hear something like this I think back to 1974. The USAF decided that airmen (not WAF's or officers) were out of shape and overweight. They started what was called (darned if I know the actual name) Fat Boy program.

Basically they took your height and weight. Looked at a chart and decided whether you were fat. If you were you had to report to a Dr. for a physical. You were then put on a diet and exercise program. This included weekly weight ins.

The two units that didn't seem to have any problems were the cops and firemen. Dah! All except one fireman. You see he was hovering right around 300. In fact his turnout gear was special ordered to fit him. So he was sent to the Dr. for the physical and so on.

I would love to have been a fly on the wall when that big ole cajun with shoulders two miles wide and a waist like a girl looked down (oh yeah, he was about 6'7") at he Dr. and said "what you mean I'm fat".

This guy was strong as an ox and folks sometimes thought he might not be so bright because of his size. More fools they!

By the way this big ole cajun once carried me in proximity suit, airpack (the old steel bottles) out of a hanger like most adults would carry a toddler under his arm.

Thanks Pete. :wink:
 
Beer guzzling is the usual cause of overweight.
Sounds like the usual editorial copy, Pentagon PR releases.
 
Bob Wright said:
What kind of costumes were those men wearing? Short pants, tennis shoes and T-Shirts????

We did our PT in combat boots and steel helmets.







In the mud.


Bob Wright

Bob, back when you were in they used chariots, correct. Your basic weapon was what; a spear or hadn't weaponry advanced that far yet? :D :D :D :roll:
Actually the scored Army PT testing didn't start till 1980. Up until then is was simply calisthenics performed as the unit commander dictated. The new test was also simply two minutes of pushups and sit ups, plus a two mile run. It was scored by age AND gender. When I retired at age 60 my last test required passing score was something like 18 pushups (I could easily get into the 40s in 2 minutes), 27 sit-ups in two minutes, and the two mile run in 19 minutes and 54 seconds (it takes me that long to get to the car today at 81). :roll:
 
I think it's a good move, gonna be easier for some and harder for others.
Older guys and some women are going to have to get or stay in better shape.
Dave
 
Fox Mike said:
graygun said:
Our PCPT was scored,1969 at Ft Bragg...500 for max.
True but there was no 'oh shucks' for not getting 250. :D

Yeah,I think 250 was the minimum. There was a guy at our site in VN who said he spent 5 months in basic training. :shock: I thought it hard to believe but he did look a little on the soft side. In '69,I guess they were reluctant to discharge people if it could be avoided. Maybe his GT score was very high.
 
In 1966 we had to do the mile in 5mim 20sec or be recycled. I did it in 5:18 carrying another guy between two of us with his and our M14's belts and canteens. Lead follow or get out of the way!
 
First full day of basic we had PT and the instructor told us we were going to run a mile.

Now you have to understand two things. First I was just out of high school where I ran cross country. And second, my mouth had, heck still does, have a tendency to operate without my brain being engaged.

So, at the mention of the mile I pipe up with "That's all!". So we ran two. I wasn't too popular that day. But it was soon forgotten when someone else did a dumb thing and we all paid for it.
 
I've seen the Army come up with new PT tests periodically since 1964. They still haven't come up to USMC standards.

But what the heck, the Army has all the choppers, trucks, and other vehicles to ride into battle in, so they don't need all that PT stuff anyway. Even blubber butts can pull a trigger, or surf the internet. :wink: :lol:
 
Yes, every 4-5 years there's another new PT test and standards.
In my day (1967-1971) the only times I did PT was in BCT and Jump School.
That old Army issued cold was a great excuse for failing a PT test.
Getting a PT profile was considered a mark of distinction and a way of getting over, though I was told it became a bar to promotion.
Starchy Army food-"potatoes at every meal" is a another good excuse for weight problems.
 
"I've seen the Army come up with new PT tests periodically since 1964. They still haven't come up to USMC standards."

And they never will.

Semper Fi, Gunny!

USMC 1972-1974
 
I was on active duty from 1966 until 1990, and to be honest, for most of those years I paid little to no attention to physical fitness. As an officer in the Medical Service Corps, I had to at least look like a fit officer, but for a good part of those days I was a heavy smoker who couldn’t have run a mile if my life depended on it. Even in those days the Army took fitness seriously for the combat troops, but not so much for those of us in the support services, especially medical. Many of the “units” I served with in my first dozen or so years in the service didn’’t even bother running the PT test for the enlisted folks, it was just ignored. About halfway through my years in the Army I quit smoking and became a fanatic runner. Then I actually looked forward to the semi annual PT test of pushups, sit-ups and the two mile run.

Looking at the videos of the new PT test, I wondered if it would be actually enforced for the entire Army, or just for the infantry. Demanding that level of fitness for doctors, dentists, lawyers and chaplains might be next to impossible, or possibly the Army is planning on getting along with far fewer of these people than it has in the past. Some top notch surgeons that I worked with, who saved the lives of many a soldier in Vietnam, could not have come close to passing this new test and had we been without them, many more young men would have died. I wish the Army good luck with this program, but I have my doubts.
 
Muley Gil said:
"I've seen the Army come up with new PT tests periodically since 1964. They still haven't come up to USMC standards."

And they never will.

Semper Fi, Gunny!

USMC 1972-1974
One thing that can be said about the Marines; they are a lot like a circus. Yep, if you have seen one, you have seen them all! :D :D :roll:
Gary Owen!
 
Muley Gil said:
"I've seen the Army come up with new PT tests periodically since 1964. They still haven't come up to USMC standards."

And they never will.

Semper Fi, Gunny!

USMC 1972-1974

I'd like to see how some Army guys (not special forces) would handle the PT at the SNCO Academy in Quantico. That was pretty tough when I went in '75. Among other things, a 6 mile orienteering run thru the hills with 1 minute stops for calisthenics every mile, which used up 5 minutes. Had 60 minutes to run the course. I did it in 48, and I wasn't the fastest. :) IIRC, the fastest guy in our class did it in a little under 40min. :shock:
 
GunnyGene said:
Muley Gil said:
"I've seen the Army come up with new PT tests periodically since 1964. They still haven't come up to USMC standards."

And they never will.

Semper Fi, Gunny!

USMC 1972-1974

I'd like to see how some Army guys (not special forces) would handle the PT at the SNCO Academy in Quantico. That was pretty tough when I went in '75. Among other things, a 6 mile orienteering run thru the hills with 1 minute stops for calisthenics every mile, which used up 5 minutes. Had 60 minutes to run the course. I did it in 48, and I wasn't the fastest. :) IIRC, the fastest guy in our class did it in a little under 40min. :shock:


Did it make you impervious to small arms fire. :lol:
 
graygun said:
GunnyGene said:
Muley Gil said:
"I've seen the Army come up with new PT tests periodically since 1964. They still haven't come up to USMC standards."

And they never will.

Semper Fi, Gunny!

USMC 1972-1974

I'd like to see how some Army guys (not special forces) would handle the PT at the SNCO Academy in Quantico. That was pretty tough when I went in '75. Among other things, a 6 mile orienteering run thru the hills with 1 minute stops for calisthenics every mile, which used up 5 minutes. Had 60 minutes to run the course. I did it in 48, and I wasn't the fastest. :) IIRC, the fastest guy in our class did it in a little under 40min. :shock:


Did it make you impervious to small arms fire. :lol:

I already was. :lol:
 

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