MY RAM HAS A WOBBLE !!!!!

onehandgunner

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I just hope it doesn't spread. Okay, I have 2 RCBS Jr. presses, 1 is tight and the 2nd one has about a 1/16" + of out to out wiggle in the ram. This press is used only to deprime and size 44 mag brass. What is an accepted tollerance in the wiggle before I use it as a door stop? Is there a way to reduce the wiggle? thanks
 
I just checked my own RCBS press (which is some 40 years old) and if there's any wobble in the ram, it aint enough to detect.

.062+ is quite a bit of fore and aft movement. I'd call RCBS and get their input on that. It could be that they can fix it for you. If that don't work out, the next best thing that I can think of is to have a shop true-up the shaft, rebore the hole that it rides in and then fabricate a press-in bushing that will provide a slip-fit for the shaft.

That, or keep using it like it is untill you can't no more.

DGW
 
DGW1949 said:
That, or keep using it like it is untill you can't no more.

Hi,

I think DGW's got the answer right there!

At last count, I had six single stage presses. Two were bought new, two "almost" new, two "definitely used" but not apparently abused.

Three of them have nice tight rams (one of the new ones, both of the almost new ones) while the other three have a fair amount of wobble. I haven't measured it to be exact.

Once upon a time I asked a buddy, who's quite familiar w/ machine tools and many other types as well--he was in manufacturing 30+ years--if I should worry about the wobble (it was my '69 RCBS Jr. in question, one of the definitely used presses.)

He 'splained to me the wobble didn't mean a thing. "Your dies keep everything straight and centered. All the ram does is push 'up' and any wobble in the ram just tends to let things center in the die easier. Notice how the case does NOT 'lock down' in the shell holder. There's a reason for that--you NEED some wiggle available in the system."

He didn't explain HOW MUCH wiggle might be ideal. Or tolerable. But I quit worrying, cuz the ammo produced on the "wobbly" presses sems to shoot just as well as the ammo from the "tight" ones. A benchrester might argue that point, and could well be right, but I'm not one of them.

Now, cleanliness is next to godliness, as they say, so I make sure to wipe the ram down and give it a couple of tiny droplets of oil before each loading session, and AFTER each depriming session. The primer dust is abrasive, and, combined w/ some oil, becomes a good grinding paste which CAN ruin a press, as reported by Joe Miller here on a couple of occasions. So keeping the OPs's loose Jr. dedicated to depriming/sizing uses may be wise, as it keeps the other one much cleaner!

I guess that approach is still good practice on a loose press just as it is on a tight one: none of my loose ones has gotten any looser since they came to live w/ me!

Rick C
 
Thank you all for your responses. I have e-mailed RCBS, waiting for re-ply. Warranty would be nice but the press has been discontinued for many years. The machinist around here charge enough to make buying a new press a much cheaper option. The wobble may not be that bad after all, I did place a case in the shell holder and there is enough "play" in the shell holder to case fit that the case will self center into the die. I do clean and oil so maybe it will be okay. If it gets any worse I may just get a REDDING BIG BOSS 2. Thanks Jerry
 
onehandgunner said:
If it gets any worse I may just get a REDDING BIG BOSS 2. Thanks Jerry

Hi,

I'd definitely consider a new press before putting any money into the Jr!

Nothing "wrong" w/ the Jr--it was a great press for its day--but newer designs are far superior in feel and ease of use. Suggest you add the Lee Classic Cast single stage to your "take a look at" list. Lee did a great job of incorporating "good ideas" from several mfrs in this one, and you'll have money left over for another set of dies or a handful of components compared to the other "big" brands...

Rick C
 
onehandgunner said:
UPDATE from RCBS! The wobble that the press has is acceptable. So I thank all of you for your help.

Hi,

Sounds good from here!

Of course, you know what that means, right? Now you've gotta sit down at the bench and start pulling the handle more, trying to wear it out, so's you can buy a new one!

No worries, anytime you need some help, let us know: we can spend your money for you just fine ... :D

Rick C
 
My favorite single stage press is an old C-H. Don't know model number but I've had it nearly 30 years and bought it used so it's got s lot of cases run through it. I just noticed the ram had about 1/16" or so slop at the top of ram travel. I noticed it when I began using a new set of dies, 9mm, and the case would hit the mouth of the sizing die. I just incorporated a slight push with my finger near the top of the stroke and the case hits center every time. Got me thinking about a new press but I don't think I'm ready to put the old gal out to pasture yet...
 

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