motorheads need help i.d. fan belts

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got some belts up on the wall. been there sometime. forgot what they go to.

alert auto products
#670, 53 3/4 x 7/16 x 38"

dayco
15445
121 119
date-1974
 
Hi,

Drive belts have been labeled so many ways it can make your head spin. That Alert Auto sounds like a fairly long belt--got a swamp cooler or something else using a long, medium wide belt? The numbers usually reflect an outside diameter (53 3/4"), a width(7/16") and the 38 probably is degrees, not inches, reflecting the angle the belt's cut to.

The Dayco is labeled with a semi-conventional code: the 15 is the width, in 1/32" increments, so it's just shy of 1/2" wide, and the 445 is the OD of 44 1/2". That's almost exactly the size of the power streering belt on my old Toyota truck, so there are unknown numbers of things it might fit.

Dayco and Gates both have good websites telling a lot of stuff about design, sizing, and some things a belt will fit. So you can plug in a vehicle, tell the 'puter which belt you want, and it will give you the catalog number, which in turn will give you the sizing.

I know it's heresy to make fun of American boneheads who will not adapt to the metric system, but most automotive belts now include a metric measurement, so you know if you got the exact belt or one that's close. Every time I go to buy belts--same brand--they give me different catalog numbers for the same application. That truck's 30 plus years old, and I've got a list of a half dozen different sizes that will work, some better than others. But if I compare the metric label, I can get 'em spot on to the factory belts regardless of what their computer says. Some times that involves a little educating the parts guy/gal what they're looking for!

Being one of those people who never throws stuff out, I have a sizeable box of belts in the garage. I save the sleeve and mark it with what it fits. Works for me!

Rick C
 
I searched for dayco 15445, and it took me to a website that listed applications for that belt...... Not as much luck with the alert auto products tho.....
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dac-15445/applications

I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for but I hope it helps...
 
good to know I can hit pay dirt here with guys like you. thanks.
im waiting for the website to load up.....
so let me go from memory what dad would have had in the shop in 1974. lets see if any of these cars/trucks would have taken that belt.

2500 high siearra gmc 3//4 ton 350v8
74 bmw 2002tii
74 Mercedes 280 gas
42 Lincoln v12 with a 52 caddy replanted v8 engine.
48 ford inline 6 rack body.
58 ford 1 ton dumper
55 int metro mite.
68 gmc 1600 series v6
69 amc javelin sst 232 in line 6
66 Pontiac Bonneville grand prix v8
70 cadillac 454 coupe de ville

dad was motorhead. can you picture the yard?


any of those cross over?
 
Hi,

Really wild guesses: that longer belt could have been used with one of the big V8s if an alternator (or even generator), p/s pump, or AC compressor lived way far away from the crank pulley. The shorter Dayco may have been used on any of the straight sixes which would have the accessories closer to the center of the engine.

How far back do the cross reference sheets go on the Dayco or Gates websites?

Rick C
 
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only old cars I have left now in the yard are a 1990 lumina 3.1 4dr, a 1986 olds cutless supreme, and a 96 buick century.
can any of those belts take these cars?

fyi.....all 3 cars are STILL registered and being used!
 
If those belts are that old the best thing you could do with them
is install em in your nearest trash can.
Dave
 
+1 on the trash can .... as quick as you can.
Heck, I used to trash tires that turned 10 years old with almost no miles on them... just sat on a classic car in the garage and then got dumped for safety sake. Rubber (like us) takes a beating with age.
IMHO,
J.
 
Hi,

Installing one of the belts on a trash can just right with a few other bits and pieces could result in a nice home made "Thumler's Tumbler"!

Rick C
 
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