Maybe the ammo drought is ending . . . THREADS MERGED

[Acorn]

My local Wal Mart had a few boxes of Federal Auto Match of which I bought 2.
The next day I was at another WM near our old home and they had Stingers, Auto Match, Winchester white box, and some Winchester in the red plastic box, but that might not have been .22. It was locked up about 10’ away and my peepers were never that good to begin with, let alone @ 65 years. I bought the Federal but have 0 experience with it. I’m off for a couple days so I plan on shooting some up.
Wished they’d had Mini Mags as it’s my brand of choice.
It seems to be coming to an end.

 

[Mobuck]

Federal Auto Match is the ammo of choice for a couple of my 22/45 pistols and one 10-22 plus it cycles fine in everything. It's one of the better quality ammo choices.
As for the 'drought' ending, it does appear that center fire ammo is becoming more available and prices are coming down but I'm not seeing rimfire on the same track yet. In fact, I feel that ammo suppliers have 'seen the light' and now realize just how much folks will pay for ammo so prices may never return to 2019 levels.
What I noticed is that us 'old pharts' just don't realize how much the younger shooters will spend to have what they want. Last year, many of that group was not spending on going places, eating out, vacations, or even gas money to drive to work while still getting full pay. That money was going to ammo purchases(hoarding). I heard of one group of young(er) guys who spent a weekend driving around buying any/all ammo that they could find on the shelf regardless of price so they could participate in 3-gun competition the next weekend. A relative of one of those young men asked me if I had any ammo I'd sell them. My answer "If they need ammo to defend themselves or family, I'll GIVE them some but I won't SELL them ammo to play games". Maybe I'm just being a grumpy old man.

 

[Kevin]

I like the Federal Auto Match also. I think it’s every bit as accurate as CCI, which I know isn’t top tier ammo, but anyway, I’m pleased with it.

Glad to hear Wal Mart has ammo. The store I shop at must stock ammo every time I go they have a few odd boxes of shot gun and some rifle. But always different boxes. The other day they had probably 10 boxes of 300 Blackout which I though was strange. Perhaps I just thought that isn’t a popular round. Oh well, I’m sure it made someone happy.

 

[Johnnu2]

Well............ in my humble opinion (which I given about 10 million times).... the drought is ending only when the prices drop to pre-panic levels.... My 10/22 (yes, I only have one)... loves Fed. Auto Match; however, I won't pay more than $19 for a brick (and I consider that high for a 325 rnd 'brick'). It groups significantly better in my 10/22 Target, than any other ammo I've tried.

DON'T BUY...

J.

 

[bobski]

+1 ^^^

 

[Captain America]

Well............ in my humble opinion (which I given about 10 million times).... the drought is ending only when the prices drop to pre-panic levels.... My 10/22 (yes, I only have one)... loves Fed. Auto Match; however, I won't pay more than $19 for a brick (and I consider that high for a 325 rnd 'brick'). It groups significantly better in my 10/22 Target, than any other ammo I've tried.

DON'T BUY...

J.

Using the current inflation calculators $19 in January 2020 had the same buying power as $30.30 in May 2021, that number will be changing rapidly over the next couple of years...

https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=19.00&year1=200001&year2=202105

...inflation is here and it's real.

 

[bobski]

inflation is man made by the uncontrollable desire to buy and consume.
key word, control.


think back to the anti-tobacco movement. by making cigarettes more expensive, forced only those who could afford to smoke to smoke them. the extra money was to help pay for the cancer research needed to save the stupid americans who couldn't stop. many quit.
to this day, they are sky high, unlike a penny a piece back in the day. why? the makers had to charge more to cover the overheads due to taxation and regulation.....and forced smokers to pay the crazy prices. and what did the smokers say?
'if I want a cigarette, by g-d im gonna have one and nobodies gonna tell me otherwise. '
and life goes on, paying crazy prices for tobacco. smokers are happy. phillip morris is happy. doctors are happy. one neat little package all wrapped up with a bow.$$$
I never smoked and for sure, I wont now. it costs too much.
viola. man made inflation.
the wise will quit, because it would be a step on the right direction to return control to the consumer, not the mfg'rs.
those that wont, become part of the problem and delay deflation.

 

[blume357]

I've signed up to return to Front Sight (have not gotten permission from SWMBO yet) the kicker after signing up was the price they have for 9mm ammo right now ($56 per 50, 45acp is actually $3 cheaper).... I'm not scheduled to go until Dec. and so hopefully the price will go down. Since I have to fly, there is no way to take what I need with me... 6-700 rounds. Do have a friend in California who is going/driving who could buy and bring me some. I then checked Georgia Arms... not nearly as bad .... if you just buy the bulk remanufactured 115gr... it's 24.50 per 50 rounds. I'll be surprised if 9mm ever drops below $20 for a box of 50 again.

 

[tinman]

As has been said, don't buy until the prices get back to reasonable levels......

 

[blume357]

As has been said, don't buy until the prices get back to reasonable levels......

Depending on one's perspective that could be .... Never.

 

[Kevin]

I’ll admit I just received a box of 9mm I ordered. In the last thread about ammo someone said Midway was having a sale.

Yup, I ordered some. One of those “350 qty. bucket O bullets” it actually had 352 rounds.

Will prices go down? Whose to say…

Has anyone eaten at McDonalds lately? Close to $12 or $15 per person. Will those prices go back down? Whose to say….

 

[Ray Newman]

“the drought is ending only when the prices drop to pre-panic levels.... “
--Johnnu2

I think you are pipe dreaming. Inflation, increased minimum wage, gasoline/diesel fuel, shipping, etc., will naturally increase prices. Now if you find a way to decrease those prices, you might see a price drop.

 

[Pat-inCO]

IF the prices are starting back down, IMO, it is only because the new shooters are
finally getting their shelves stocked. If/once they manage to have enough on their
shelves, they will stop paying what ever it takes, and THAT'S when prices will
come back down to where they should be.

 

[Mobuck]

"IMO, it is only because the new shooters are finally getting their shelves stocked."

On the flip side, at least some of new 'gun owners' bought a gun and ONE box of ammo. I heard reports of first timers trying to buy only enough ammo to load their new purchase once.
While supplies of domestic factory ammo are trickling in, much of what I'm seeing advertised is either foreign made or reman(reloaded). Some ammo reloaders/sellers are offering to buy brass from anyone who will ship it to them.

 

[57springer]

The prices are here to stay in my opinion .

 

[RSIno1]

Well............ in my humble opinion (which I given about 10 million times).... the drought is ending only when the prices drop to pre-panic levels....

I don't think we'll get down to pre-panic prices. I figure there will be a 10-20% increase with the higher number being for smaller volume calibers. This panic I resisted selling anything to the unprepared because I'm still not sure the supply will come back 100% or at low enough prices that would have justified selling what I already have. Last panic I got some good gun trades for ammo. Best was an OM pristine Bearcat for ammo I had $120 invested in.

 

[Captain America]

...I don't think we'll get down to pre-panic prices. I figure there will be a 10-20% increase with the higher number being for smaller volume calibers...

I agree, supply and demand will bring the price down but Bidenflation is real, EVERYTHING will be far more expensive from now on.

 

[graygun]

Academy in San Angelo,TX had 223,45acp,40,380,30.06 and a few others yesterday. WM in same town had some 22 in box of 325 ($18.95) and 22 mag . These in 22 were down to one box each but this was in the mid afternoon;they may have had quite a bit more in the morning.

 

[caryc]

I had an occasion to go into Walmart the other day. I got what I came in to get and wandered over to see what ammo they might have. I was surprised to see a bunch of pellet guns in the case where the ammo used to be. I asked the clerk what was going on and he said they quit selling ammo about two weeks ago.

 

[Mobuck]

Buying ammo??
I have a very short list of ammo that I [might] buy if I happened upon the specific item--I'd spend $20-25 per box for some 6.5 C ammo. Otherwise, I'm going to wait this scenario out. I'm a bit short on 6.5 Creedmoor simply because I didn't get into that caliber prior to the big drought but even then I have enough to satisfy my hunting needs for another 3-5 years. If not, I'll park it and shoot the .308.

 

[hittman]

If the election of ‘08 didnt convince people to stock up ….. nothing will.

 

[LuckenbachTexas]

Dang man, you coulda shot down to Bass Pro San Antonio or the Academy’s here. Ammo making a massive comeback

 

[chuck]

The Ammo drought is going to get worse, We have been taken over from with in.

 

[protoolman]

Yep, located .223 and a30-06 and all the pistol calibers in nd, mt and mn recently. Unfortunately all priced $40 box or so. Coming in regular price and being marked up. Dealers are trying to get a taste of the big profits now. Wait and dont buy. By fall maybe regular prices?

 

[57springer]

The Ammo drought is going to get worse, We have been taken over from with in.

You may be right , so I am still buying . Ammo lasts a very long time if stored properly :wink:

 

[jimd441]

Ammo coming back in Central N.C. at higher than pre-pandemic but far below scalping prices.

Jim

 

[375hh1973]

Im buying here and there as well.

 

[Mobuck]

Internet ammo sellers are advertising 9mm FMJ for under 50 cents and high end SD ammo under $1(per round). That's still 20-25% above pre-crazy prices but 1/2 of the 'get it while you can' levels.

 

[LDM]

What I would like to know is, where are these gang-bangers in Chiraq blowing away hundreds of rounds at a time getting their ammo?

 

[Ale-8(1)]

What I would like to know is, where are these gang-bangers in Chiraq blowing away hundreds of rounds at a time getting their ammo?

There's always ammo available to those who will pay the asking price. :?