Louisville UPS cargo plane crash.

[ProfessorWes]

Horrible: UPS Flight 2976 from Louisville to Honolulu went down just after takeoff, into what looks like an industrial park. There's at least one video showing fire coming from the jet's left wing before impact.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...shelter-in-place-issued-officials/ar-AA1POlt4

https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2025/1...losion-in-kentucky-injuries-reported-n2195860

 

[Gator89]

When I resided in Louisville, my plant was located off Fern Valley Rd, but on the east side of 65.

There is Ford Assembly plant in the vicinity of the crash, as well as other businesses.

 

[RC44Mag]

Fuel burn for hundreds of yards. Full fuel load for the long flight to Hawaii no doubt Absolutely Horrible

 

[bobski]

time for ejection seats on some of those planes.

 

[s4s4u]

time for ejection seats on some of those planes.

It would have to have a massive upward thrust G to get enough height for a parachute to open.

What a tragedy. Is 4:56 the time it actually happened?

 

[ProfessorWes]

Several accounts have been showing a picture of what is purportedly the left engine of the UPS MD-11 sitting alongside the runway, after the crash. It was definitely on fire on the left side when it went down.

 

[contender]

No doubt some idiot will complain about not getting her UPS package.

That video looks horrible. Prayers for the families.

 

[pyth0n]

It would have to have a massive upward thrust G to get enough height for a parachute to open.

What a tragedy. Is 4:56 the time it actually happened?

The military uses such seats. They're zero zero seats, meaning zero airspeed & zero altitude.
I doubt the cargo haulers would pay the price of those seats.

 

[redhawker]

No doubt some idiot will complain about not getting her UPS package.

That video looks horrible. Prayers for the families.

Yeah, you're right. Saw a post about it shortly after it happened, and several people thought it was funny enough to joke about missing their UPS packages. There are some sick puppies out there anymore.

 

[jimbo1096]

Looks like it may have impacted or cause issues with cars on the freeway too. If that’s the case there’s going to be a lot higher fatality,. I pray that’s not the case

 

[eveled]

Prayers sent.

 

[GunnyGene]

7 dead, 11 seriously injured as of this morning.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/natio...about-the-deadly-ups-plane-crash-in-kentucky/

This pic shows the hundreds of yards the plane skidded thru everything:

 

[contender]

Awful.

NOT,,, repeat not downplaying the injuries or loss of life,, but it's a miracle that number isn't much higher.

 

[GunnyGene]

Awful.

NOT,,, repeat not downplaying the injuries or loss of life,, but it's a miracle that number isn't much higher.

Latest from local news: 9 dead, 11 injures, at least 16 missing.

https://www.wlky.com/article/plane-crash-explosion-louisville-airport/69255042

As of Wednesday morning, at least nine people are dead and 11 injured, and at least 16 people are still missing. There are two people in critical condition and eight with non-life-threatening injuries at UofL hospitals.


Gov. Andy Beshear said he expects those numbers to grow.

 

[golferboy426]

When I resided in Louisville, my plant was located off Fern Valley Rd, but on the east side of 65.

There is Ford Assembly plant in the vicinity of the crash, as well as other businesses.

I used to work at Appliance Park

 

[bobski]

new seats are 0-0 with horizon seeking gyros............

 

[Johnnu2]

This morning I read that "witnesses" saw an engine on the left wing on fire during take-off roll (before nose up). If so, not sure why the tower would not have called that out immediately (?).

J.

 

[GunnyGene]

This morning I read that "witnesses" saw an engine on the left wing on fire during take-off roll (before nose up). If so, not sure why the tower would not have called that out immediately (?).

J.

Over 300 flights/day out of that airport, and understaffed/overworked tower.

 

[Johnnu2]

Over 300 flights/day out of that airport, and understaffed/overworked tower.

I'm sure you're correct on that one... Controllers are now busier than a puppy in a room full of bouncing balls.

J.

 

[GunnyGene]

I'm sure you're correct on that one... Controllers are now busier than a puppy in a room full of bouncing balls.

J.

The other possible explanation is the age of the plane. It's 34 years old, with a lot of takeoffs and landings. Maintenance & inspections under those conditions may not have been what it should be. The NTSB will be looking into that.

 

[RC44Mag]

This morning I read that "witnesses" saw an engine on the left wing on fire during take-off roll (before nose up). If so, not sure why the tower would not have called that out immediately (?).

J.

Maybe they did but might have been too late to abort, aircraft also have engine fire alert warnings again maybe the issue of not enough runway to stop. No doubt it was heavily laden going to Hawaii

Max fuel load- approx 38,000 gallons, thats about 250,000lbs

 

[txramfan]

This morning I read that "witnesses" saw an engine on the left wing on fire during take-off roll (before nose up). If so, not sure why the tower would not have called that out immediately (?).

J.

The left engine , per photos and news reports, detached and its not at the crash site. The photo looks like its next to runway and has grass embedded on it.

ETA Back in 1979 the left engine on a different model McDonald Douglas jet fell off just after take off. AA flight 191 from O' Hare to DFW.

 

[RonEgg]

Catastrophic engine failure. It is assumed that an engine on fire is still producing thrust. You work the procedures quickly, correctly and with some luck you get a little altitude, then work on the fire. Engine sitting off the runway was of no use and with extensive wing damage, there was no way that airplane was going to fly. Not that heavy.

 

[BarryinIN]

Catastrophic engine failure. It is assumed that an engine on fire is still producing thrust. You work the procedures quickly, correctly and with some luck you get a little altitude, then work on the fire. Engine sitting off the runway was of no use and with extensive wing damage, there was no way that airplane was going to fly. Not that heavy.

And if the engine came off before takeoff, it probably would’ve damaged the fuel cutoff in the pylon. It would’ve been spewing fuel into the fire.

I saw somewhere this place didn’t fly for 5-6 weeks in Sep/Oct. The presumption was it was in for maintenance.
Could be, but it could’ve been simply parked due to not being needed.

 

[Fox Mike]

Maybe they did but might have been too late to abort, aircraft also have engine fire alert warnings again maybe the issue of not enough runway to stop. No doubt it was heavily laden going to Hawaii

Max fuel load- approx 38,000 gallons, thats about 250,000lbs

I think you will find that it was 38,00 pounds of fuel, which is about 5800 gallons. Jet fuel is measured by the pounds and JP-4/5 is about 6.5 lbs per gallon

 

[RC44Mag]

I think you will find that it was 38,00 pounds of fuel, which is about 5800 gallons. Jet fuel is measured by the pounds and JP-4/5 is about 6.5 lbs per gallon

I pulled the fuel cap from wiki and did the calculations from that based on kerosene weight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_MD-11

 

[Yaworski]

ETA Back in 1979 the left engine on a different model McDonald Douglas jet fell off just after take off. AA flight 191 from O' Hare to DFW.

That was a DC-10, the older sibling of the MD-11. A L-1011, another tri-jet lost an engine back around 1970.

 

[txramfan]

That was a DC-10, the older sibling of the MD-11. A L-1011, another tri-jet lost an engine back around 1970.

I'm aware of the model of the Chicago crash.
A VP of sales I worked with had a ticket for AA flight 191.
He fortunately changed his flight plans.

 

[ProfessorWes]

Some of the news reports I've seen last night and today, indicated that the flight was delayed two hours while mechanics worked on the number one engine . . . the same one that allegedly fell off the plane during the takeoff run.

Foreign-object damage from Number One coming apart may have done for the other engine as well.

Not much you can do at that point.

 

[pyth0n]

I think you will find that it was 38,00 pounds of fuel, which is about 5800 gallons. Jet fuel is measured by the pounds and JP-4/5 is about 6.5 lbs per gallon

No sir. It was 38615 gallons & apparently they use 6.7 lbs per gallon so the fuel weight was 258721 lbs., per the F model specs. JP4 & 5 run approx 6.4 to 6.5 lb/gal.