volshooter
Buckeye
I am not familiar with Ruger's 1911. Got a gun show this weekend and I am looking for another 1911. Enlighten me. I am a reloader and find that 1911 copies shoot better with my reloads than the smaller versions.
Looking for another 1911
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mattsbox99
Hunter
As Rev says, its a 1911, they're all the same.
Pat-inCO
Hawkeye
If you can find one, the best value in a 1911 is the Desert Eagle 1911G.
Mine is very smooth, accurate, has yet to hick-up, burp or anything but run properly. They go for $625 to $700 . . . . if you can find one.
Some whine about the bill-board on the side, but I look at the sights and where I'm shooting, so it's not a problem for me.
Mine is very smooth, accurate, has yet to hick-up, burp or anything but run properly. They go for $625 to $700 . . . . if you can find one.
Some whine about the bill-board on the side, but I look at the sights and where I'm shooting, so it's not a problem for me.
Texasgunner
Single-Sixer
The RIA is worth a look- If I had say $800 to spend on a 1911 i'd get TWO different models of RIA's 8)
OP
volshooter
Buckeye
So far my research is suggesting a Rock Island mil-spec. I'm not looking for any bells and wistles, just a solid mil-spec 1911. I know what dealers have to pay and will see this week end just how much mark-up there is. I have a couple of friends with FFL's that I might check into.
Pat-inCO
Hawkeye
mattsbox99 said:
Yup, all the same.
That's why you can pay three thousand dollars more for one than some other one. :roll:
And why one will jamb up on almost every shot, while others seem to never jamb.
Yup, all the same.
Where one can put a full magazine worth in a two inch circle at 25 feet, and the next one is lucky to hit an 8-1/2X11 piece of paper at the same distance.
Yup, all the same.
OP
volshooter
Buckeye
1911 style pistols vary from price, accuracy, total function every time and not to mention all the little extras that be had. My search for a solid mil-spec began when I had the oppertunity to shoot 2 US issue reconditioned origionial 1911's aquired buy our local law enforcement through a federal program.
The issued 1911 is a true beauty. It has all the things I want. I have other newer modified versions, but they all fail to measure up to what I want. I was raised on the basic issue model and wish to go back to it.
The issued 1911 is a true beauty. It has all the things I want. I have other newer modified versions, but they all fail to measure up to what I want. I was raised on the basic issue model and wish to go back to it.
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volshooter
Buckeye
Well yaknow I'm from Tennessee. Says it all don't it. 
dakota1911
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I have bought one and they are worth the price.
dfletcher
Blackhawk
I have a few CZ made Dan Wesson 1911s and think they're a great value. The slide, frame and barrel feel like a single hunk of steel. The slide glides on the rails. A simple, well made 1911 with not alot of frills and no (series 80 type) FP block. CA's foolish gun laws have made the CBOB and PM 7 hard to get and they've doubled in price since I bought mine. I'd still not sell either of them.
Don Lovel
Hunter
I was going to get a Desert Eagle 1911C but none of my local gun dealers could find me one, then one day a Riger 1911 showed up, $835 out the door with a box of CorBon 185gr+P
It shoots better than the last three Colts, two Springfield Armory and two Rock Islands I have shot and it is now the official gun of my Jeep, I have been carrying it every day or it is in the Jeep between the seat and console
It shoots better than the last three Colts, two Springfield Armory and two Rock Islands I have shot and it is now the official gun of my Jeep, I have been carrying it every day or it is in the Jeep between the seat and console
skipper49
Single-Sixer
I paid $639 for mine about 16 months ago, and consider it one of the best buys in a 1911. A very tight, well fitted pistol. Totally reliable and very straight shooter. Hard to beat for the money.
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David Bradshaw
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Early in my teens I bought a Colt M1911 manufactured during World War I. Worn bluing, original diamond pattern grips, lanyard rings on magazine and mainspring housing. Paid $20. Surplus ammo was cheap, sometimes two or three cents per round. Shot a small mountain of GI 230 ball ammo through the Colt, including then-plentiful 1943 production with zinc-plated steel case. It could not be stopped. Even when I got into handloading, I never loaded for it. The feed ramp was a narrow scallop; reckon non-ball would not have worked.
Many years later I met Ben Kilham, gunsmith, naturalist and, quite likely, America's foremost authority on black bear. Kilham worked at Colt's in Hartford until, as he described it, "They laid off all the people who know how to make guns." Kilham described a period when Colt experienced many 1911 returns due to malfunctioning. Then, one of the old hands reached into an old file and pulled out John Browning specifications. Let's just make some to these drawings, the guy said. They did, and the guns worked perfect. Too bad that guy was not in management.
Some people, including gunsmiths, believed that the 1911 was an inherently problematic design for non-ball feeding. Various custom builders ignored that assessment and discovered through serious study and hard work that the 1911 can be both fantastically accurate + reliable at the same time----with non-ball hollow points and SWC projectiles. Foremost among these builders is early handgun silhouetter and master pistolsmith, Les Baer, whom rewrote the definition of a RELIABLE ACCURATE 1911.
Not that Colt completely forgot how to make guns. In fact, the Colt Nation Match (pre-Gold Cup rollmark) proved in the late 1950's through 1960's that great accuracy and reliability combine perfectly in the 1911. And, let us note, excellent Series 80 .45 ACP's and Delta Elite 10mm Auto's have come from Colt's production line.
Ben Kilham had another observation on some contemporary makers of the 1911: "They know how to make parts. They just don't know how to put them together."
Forums such as this should be a source of buyer experience, which cannot be found in magazines.
David Bradshaw
Many years later I met Ben Kilham, gunsmith, naturalist and, quite likely, America's foremost authority on black bear. Kilham worked at Colt's in Hartford until, as he described it, "They laid off all the people who know how to make guns." Kilham described a period when Colt experienced many 1911 returns due to malfunctioning. Then, one of the old hands reached into an old file and pulled out John Browning specifications. Let's just make some to these drawings, the guy said. They did, and the guns worked perfect. Too bad that guy was not in management.
Some people, including gunsmiths, believed that the 1911 was an inherently problematic design for non-ball feeding. Various custom builders ignored that assessment and discovered through serious study and hard work that the 1911 can be both fantastically accurate + reliable at the same time----with non-ball hollow points and SWC projectiles. Foremost among these builders is early handgun silhouetter and master pistolsmith, Les Baer, whom rewrote the definition of a RELIABLE ACCURATE 1911.
Not that Colt completely forgot how to make guns. In fact, the Colt Nation Match (pre-Gold Cup rollmark) proved in the late 1950's through 1960's that great accuracy and reliability combine perfectly in the 1911. And, let us note, excellent Series 80 .45 ACP's and Delta Elite 10mm Auto's have come from Colt's production line.
Ben Kilham had another observation on some contemporary makers of the 1911: "They know how to make parts. They just don't know how to put them together."
Forums such as this should be a source of buyer experience, which cannot be found in magazines.
David Bradshaw
skipper49
Single-Sixer
Excellent post, David. Lots of truth. JMB had it right to begin with, and plenty of us "old timers" know it.
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volshooter
Buckeye
Great post!
BTW Skip, which brand were you posting about, just so I can be clear.
BTW Skip, which brand were you posting about, just so I can be clear.
skipper49
Single-Sixer
Sorry 'bout that. It's the Ruger SR1911. I've been owning 1911's for 40 years, some good ones and some bad ones. The Ruger is proving to be a great 1911 for the money. Mine is a very early production model, and it seems that the early ones were more consistent in their build quality. We heard VERY few complaints about the early SR1911's, with the later ones varying a little more in quality. Just check any prospect carefully.
Good luck,
Skip
Good luck,
Skip
I know this is an older thread, but I just thought I'd mention for those that are looking for the DE1991G or the DE1911C, that Gun Genie has them in stock. The good thing about buying from Gun Genie is that they provide a lifetime warranty, which you don't get from Magnum Research. (I am not affiliated with Gun Genie in any way, other than as a customer.) Bud's Guns usually has RIAs, and they also have the DE models, last I looked.
I was in Academy Sports in Mesquite, TX today, and they had quite a few 1911s! Citadels (full size and compacts), Remingtons (R1 and enhanced models), American Classics, Taurus (they usually have those), and a SR1911 ($699.) They got in two today, and sold them both (one while I was there.)
I was in Academy Sports in Mesquite, TX today, and they had quite a few 1911s! Citadels (full size and compacts), Remingtons (R1 and enhanced models), American Classics, Taurus (they usually have those), and a SR1911 ($699.) They got in two today, and sold them both (one while I was there.)
Chris
Blackhawk
Personally
Colt, Ruger and Kimber..own them all.
They are all the same but have different personalities so to speak. The newest is the Ruger which I just brought home yesterday, super tight, trigger a tad stiff, the recoil spring I think is made of Krypton...talk about stiff . I am sure it will break in nicely over time. Shot great out of the box, but was dry to the bone but had to shoot it anyway.
Colt, Ruger and Kimber..own them all.
They are all the same but have different personalities so to speak. The newest is the Ruger which I just brought home yesterday, super tight, trigger a tad stiff, the recoil spring I think is made of Krypton...talk about stiff . I am sure it will break in nicely over time. Shot great out of the box, but was dry to the bone but had to shoot it anyway.
If you want a low cost 'paper pucher' as well as a reliable defence hand gun look at the Rock Island Tactical 1911 full size in 9mm. If you are as cheap as I am then add an Advantage Arms conversion kit and you have a great .22 cal 1911 that has last shot hold open capability.
I also have a Ruger SR1911 that I purchased for $549.99 + tax :lol: and run the conversion on it when I cannot afford (will not spend) .45cal ammunition
I also have a Ruger SR1911 that I purchased for $549.99 + tax :lol: and run the conversion on it when I cannot afford (will not spend) .45cal ammunition
montegomx70
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get a colt. their new stuff is fantastic.
dakota1911
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The best new basic I own are a couple Colt WWI repos. They are not cheap, but very, very nice. Of course I also now bought a second SR1911. Not basic, but nice for the price.
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