LCR Defect?

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Recently heard of NIB LCR revolvers that when the cylinder is open, the trigger can be pulled until the hammer is cocked & released. In other words, you can work the trigger assembly as you would if the cylinder is closed to fire a cartridge. These are new in box LCR revolvers that are on dealer shelves in three different stores in my area. So far, there have been five examples & I have seen two of them. Defect? Anyone else heard about this? Needless to say, Ruger has requested that these be sent back to Ruger for review.
 
I don't think I have ever tried that with any of my double-actions.

OK, SP-101 won't do it. GP-100 won't do it. S&W won't do it either. Maybe it is a 'defect' but what difference? 8) 8)

...Jimbo
 
Mine doesn't do that. Does your cyl. release button pop out after the cyl. is opened? I can't make the button on mine pop out, but on my S&W, and Taurus, If I move the release to the cyl. closed position (back), the trigger is not locked out. I'm only guessing the LCR would lock out the trigger when opened like the Smith and Taurus. Just a thought.
 
Jimbo357mag said:
I don't think I have ever tried that with any of my double-actions.

OK, SP-101 won't do it. GP-100 won't do it. S&W won't do it either. Maybe it is a 'defect' but what difference? 8) 8)

...Jimbo
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I can't say what difference is makes, but the Ruger tech expressed an urgent interest in getting them back.

At one of the shops that had one of these LCR's, some of the staff felt that if the cylinder wasn't completely locked in the cylinder frame, there would be a chance of a primer being struck by the firing pin, sending a bullet out the chamber that is not lined up with the barrel throat. If this happens, it would not be a pleasant experience.

lmd
 
pyth0n said:
Mine doesn't do that. Does your cyl. release button pop out after the cyl. is opened? I can't make the button on mine pop out, but on my S&W, and Taurus, If I move the release to the cyl. closed position (fwd), the trigger is not locked out. I'm only guessing the LCR would lock out the trigger when opened like the Smith and Taurus. Just a thought.
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Since I do not have access to either of the two LCRs in question, I will not be able to check until Tuesday. My cylinder release button doesn't pop out when the cylinder is open.

lmd
 
Terry T said:
Why is this considered a defect?
Terry T
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Because it behaves differently than older Rugers I guess.

It was also discovered that there were some plastic parts used in their construction. :shock:
 
How about this: On a regular double-action revolver if the hammer can be cocked with the cylinder open and then the cylinder is closed, the gun is ready to fire. That might be a safety issue. You should not be able to close a loaded cylinder with the hammer cocked. That's my theory and now I think it makes sense. 8) 8)

ETA: oops right LCR, no hammer, but the same principle applies with being able to squeeze the trigger when not fully locked into place because of that lining-up issue. Even more important with a double-action with a hammer. You know, I think I remember reading something about that in the instruction manuals.

This warning is found in the GP-100 manual but there is not a similar one for the LCR.

GPWarning.jpg


...Jimbo
 
It's early in the morning and I can't get to my smith without waking my wife, but I seem to recall if you push the push the cylinder release on the smith back towards the rear of the frame with the cylinder open, you can cycle the action.

Dan
 
DanChamberlain said:
It's early in the morning and I can't get to my smith without waking my wife
Dan
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Makes one wonder where you stash your revolver. :wink:

I can see where drawing a gun at 3am could cause alarm though.
 
DanChamberlain said:
It's early in the morning and I can't get to my smith without waking my wife, but I seem to recall if you push the push the cylinder release on the smith back towards the rear of the frame with the cylinder open, you can cycle the action.

Dan
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You are correct sir. I fixed my post. :)
 
Found another example of the LCR mentioned above in a shop in Elk Grove CA. The owner was a bit surprised when I showed it to him & pulled it from the shelf. There were two other LCRs & they were fine. Now up to six known.

lmd
 
I just checked my 357 LCR and the trigger only works with the cylinder closed.
 
The gunsmith that discovered this issue, has come up with a fix (well at least with most of the LCR's encountered with this problem). He discovered that the button retaining screw below the crane latch needed to be tightened. Though, this didn't worked with two LCR's & they are going back to Ruger.

lmd
 
My LCR trigger will work with the cylinder open, Internal hammer will pull back and the firing pin comes through as if to fire the round with the cylinder open. Does it need to go back to Ruger? I have had mine for about a month and have yet to fire it, It still has the red paint from the test rounds around the firing pin.
 
I have 2 LCR's. One of them will cycle with the cylinder out and one of them won't. I looked at the tiny screw mentioned above but I got no screwdriver that little. I really don't see that it can do any harm.
 
Talked to Ruger today and they wanted it back ASAP. They are sending a mailing label and it should be picked up tomorrow or Thursday. The gentleman on the phone was very polite and said that it should not take long at all.
 
I got my LCR back today and they said it was fixed, However it will still funciton with the cylinder open. I had not shot it before sending it back and now it looks like it has had at least a couple of cylinders worth of ammo through it. Now I have a supposidly messed up revolver that no longer is NEW.
 
mini14shooter said:
I got my LCR back today and they said it was fixed, However it will still funciton with the cylinder open. I had not shot it before sending it back and now it looks like it has had at least a couple of cylinders worth of ammo through it. Now I have a supposidly messed up revolver that no longer is NEW.
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Did you put a note with the gun explaning exactly what the problem was; that you can work the action with the cylinder open? Sounds like maybe they just checked it out and sent it back. I would call again. 8) 8)

...Jimbo
 
Ruger told me to send a detailed letter as to what is wrong and I did. They sent back an invoice detailing what they did; They replaced most all the internal components. It still works the same as it did before. Also it has what looks like touch up paint on the frame under the cylinder release. This was not there when I sent it in.
 
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