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prairieviper said:
Everything about this incident is suspicious. I would touch base with your local sheriff or whoever is the law enforcement agency for your property as they may know something you don't. At the very least, it will create documentation for you and give the sheriff's department some background should another incident occur.

Mentioned it to a deputy ( who lives nearby ) yesterday.
 
GunnyGene said:
prairieviper said:
Everything about this incident is suspicious. I would touch base with your local sheriff or whoever is the law enforcement agency for your property as they may know something you don't. At the very least, it will create documentation for you and give the sheriff's department some background should another incident occur.

Mentioned it to a deputy ( who lives nearby ) yesterday.


That's good but if it were me, I would make an official report, to create a record, just in case. It can't hurt. Besides, I don't know how it works in your jurisdiction but in mine, that report would go to the investigations division where what happened could be better analyzed. It could serve as a lead in other investigations. If the sheriff's department follows up (as they should), it would be interesting to know if any of your neighbors have had a similar incident occur. If the sheriff's department gets lucky and locates the female in question, should she actually live in the area (I doubt this, however), they could also give her a notice to stay off your property in the future (if you wanted them to do so). Like I said, a few extra steps cannot hurt.

Good luck!
 
Even living in a city this can happen. My house has the "front door" on the side of the house, requiring a walk down a 75 foot paved walk, all out of view from the street. The door is mostly glass, so it is easy to see anyone who is in the vicinity. Normally I do not open the door at all, but will ask questions through the closed door. I don't always carry while in my home, but reading the comments on this thread are making me re-visit that issue right now.
 
I live by myself 300 yds from the road with a closed gate at the road. I have two aged Shelties, and I am grumpy when people show up that I don't know without prior knowledge. I do look first, with gun in hand too. If I don't know them, I can call for back up (sheriff's dept.). As a first responder, I have a radio I can potentially use to call dispatch :)
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mohavesam said:
....Some may think I'm kidding.
True, but a prosecuting attorney would not. No need to be a witness against yourself ( I dared not quote your entire statement again). It's good for all of us to remember the permanence of what we say on the internet.

Pierow
 
Pierow said:
mohavesam said:
....Some may think I'm kidding.
True, but a prosecuting attorney would not. No need to be a witness against yourself ( I dared not quote your entire statement again). It's good for all of us to remember the permanence of what we say on the internet.
Pierow

Thx, but not a worry here. Some might be right?
 
Interesting how many of us have had the same experiences. A couple of years ago I had just returned from running some in town errands. I had pulled through the front gate, parked my truck and had just got out to go back to the gate to shut it. Right at that moment a small car with three occupants had pulled in to my drive. A nice looking young lady gets out of the passenger side of the car and walked toward me asking if she and her friends could come in to my house to demonstrate a carpet cleaning device of some sort.

I politely told her that I was not interested and would she please leave my property. She turned up the heat a little, insisting that they had a great product that I would like.

Right about then I reached my front gate and placed my hand on my holstered 1911 that for some reason she did not see until then. Also at that point in time one of the back seat passengers had partially opened his door as if to get out of the car.

They both locked eyeballs on the Colt, wished me a good day and lost no time in getting out of my driveway.

I smirked a little, closed the gate and asked one of my room mates if they got the plates recorded. Yup. Also the rifle was put back on safe and we all went in to do other things. After a call to the Sheriff.

Those people evidently left the area post haste.

Three gun nuts living in the country are not something to muck about with.
 
GunnyGene said:
Without going into details, we do have layered passive security around the property, which alerts us well before there's a knock on the door, in addition to a few other things. There have been some barn/shop robberies lately around here, but no home burglaries or breakin's.

This event also brings something to mind that I think is not high on a lot of folks minds. That being that if it's a woman at the door, it tends to make folks think there is no reason to worry. Big mistake, imho, and probably something that a bad guy/girl would take advantage of.

We live out in the desert about 8 miles from civilization. If a woman shows up at my door at ANY hour, it's a HUGE red flag. The fairer sex gets no quarter from the Rugerhound residents. ;)

I have had illegals show up here at 3:00 a.m. looking for cell phone chargers. (So they can call their Phx contacts and get into a drop house) I fully expect one day we're gonna get some really bad hombres... I just hope to God that I've got my bases covered when it happens.
 
Thats pretty foolish of the woman to knock on a strangers door late at night. Had a black youth in his early twenty's knock on our door about 11pm. Wanted to know "if this is where the party was". No party here, now git! Then without pointing it at him I turned my body slightly to let him see my nickle 2 1/2" Python in my hand. I thought I would have to shovel his eye balls off the door step. He got.
 
Back about 1920 my grandparents ran a large country general store in Wisconsin. Two couples ran it and the family's lived over the store. In the middle of the night my grandpa woke up by someone throwing gravel or whatever against the upstairs bedroom window. He wanted gas. Grandpa got up, went down to pump him gas and two guys threw down on him. They walked him in to open the safe. Grandpa`s partner heard the commotion and came down the inside stairs with a pistol. His wife Gussie, came down a few steps above him. A robber yelled "stick em up!" and Heine complied. Gussie didn't, snatched the pistol out of Heine`s raised arm, came down and started to beat one robber about his head. For her bravery the other robber shot her through her arm. Later the next day Grandpa and Heine was called to identify a dead body in another town about fourty miles away. It was one of the robbers shot dead in front of another store. Time passed and a few years later both family's moved to Southern California and started another general store. One day Grandpa and Heine were on a street car in Los Angeles on business and bumped into the other robber! They got him arrested and the thug cracked to a life of crime. He said he either shot or the other robber shot himself (?) climbing over the transom of the door later that night at the other store. My mother was about six the night of the robbery.
She had a copy of the newspaper article about it.
 
I have lots of family and friends in law enforcement. They have impressed on me the importance of 'staying in the moment' - observing everything, getting descriptions, license plates, distinguishing features.

It almost takes some conditioning to do this as a person tends to get a little amped up with 'what's gonna happen next' thinking."

A LOT of excellent info above,,, AND in many posts here.

Sadly, in this day & age,, female thugs are much more common. AND they have accomplices. My son is LEO,, and we have learned a lot. Of course,,, my son has often said that I taught him well.
Being cautious,, prepared, and in the right mindset is invaluable.
My home break-in several years ago,,, was a result of a thug, coming onto my place, casing it a bit as no cars were there, then knocking on the door, followed by kicking in the door. He stole a lot of stuff. He also hit a second place just down the road,,, AND was seen at a 3rd place. My cameras took his picture,,, but we still haven't caught him. Even a billboard with his picture hasn't caught him.
But late night or ANYTIME a suspicious or strange person appears,,, they get confronted. I little while back, a strange truck drove in, and the guy went to the less used door. I met him with my 45 Colt in my belt. Turned out,, I actually knew him, but hadn't seen him in almost 30 years.
Being cautious,,, situational awareness,,, and recording info, asking questions, tag numbers, vehicle descriptions etc ALL can help a LOT.
 
I don't answer the door that late.

I would keep as quiet as possible, lights out, observe, listen, wait...if they break in, it's Open Season.
 
I as others think you did good and are even now more prepared.... I usually take folks at their word and would have initially believed the woman but in retrospect that is one screwy story she told...... I think in retrospect I would have gotten the car's license number and description and called the sheriff and reported it. 'They' might have found no one at home down the road.
 
A woman would get even less quarter from me than a man would at night.. I have seen first hand how women use their advantages against others.. Needless to say, I trust them less than any man.. The female can often be the deadlier of the species.. Any man nowadays that trusts a woman just because she's a female and pretty, is an idiot.. Women can kill, just like a man can.. And in some ways, they can do it easier than a man.. Because people don't typically see a woman as a threat.. And that can be the downfall of a potential victim.. Thinking that just because she's a woman, she is obviously safe..
 
Several good responses.

If you live distant from the pavement as I do and way back in the woods... secure entry to the property with a strong lock. This prevents only vehicles from entering.


Fenced yard with proper dogs prevents foot traffic which should not be there anyway.

Anyone at the door anytime will be either family (with keys) or fair game.

Yes, a locked entry is a pain sometimes (during heavy rains) but no more so than caring for big dogs and carrying a pistol which one should do at all times.

Am I paranoid? Yes, as you should be if you are remotely aware of events in your community even if it is a "safe" community which is actually non existent.

We are not in Kansas anymore Toto.

Can't speak for suburban and urban dwellers. I have lived in the boonies most of my life.

You never know when Mr. trouble will come calling.
 

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